A1 XLR input??? at DVinfo.net

Tyler Graas · October 20th, 2006, 11:47 PM

Does the A1 have an XLR input on it, like the G1?

The lad at Vistek informed me that unfortunately the A1 was missing this feature.

Jack Jenkins · October 21st, 2006, 12:53 AM

I see xlr's in the third shot down on an A1 body:
http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxh/articles/images1.php

I hope this is the way it ships. Nothing about xlr's on canon's site though in regards to A1 or G1.

Floris van Eck · October 21st, 2006, 04:28 AM

Both camera's are the same except for the professional jack pack. So yes, there are two XLR outputs on the Canon XH-A1. You see it on the pictures that Chris and posted in the forums and on the XH watchdog site.

Chris Hurd · October 21st, 2006, 08:11 AM

That's right -- everything is identical between the A1 and G1 including the XLR jacks. The only difference is the SDI, Genlock and TimeCode jacks on the G1.

Tyler Graas · October 21st, 2006, 10:01 AM

That's what i thought too based on looking at the pictures. But i called vistek in Toronto (the largest supplier) and the guy in the camera department was trying to tell me the A1 had no XLR jacks.

I had a feeling he was wrong. Especially when he was doing everything in his power to upsell me to the G1.

He does not know when they ship. But their website says October 30th.

Floris van Eck · October 22nd, 2006, 03:38 AM

He probarbly messed up the Sony HVR-FX7 and Sony HVR-V1 with the Canon XH-A1 and Canon XH-G1. The Sony HVR-FX7 has no XLR connections.

Bill Pryor · October 22nd, 2006, 03:59 PM

Tell the salesman to go check out Canon's website.

Jack Jenkins · October 23rd, 2006, 09:41 AM

I believe that the xlrs are on the A1 but the odd thing is it doesnt say it anywhere that I can find on the canon site about xlr's on either cam. Canon is still unusually vague about these cameras on their website, even though they are about to be released? No official general spec page? No tech specs? What gives?

Pete Bauer · October 23rd, 2006, 09:59 AM

My recollection from previous camcorder releases is that Canon doesn't put that kind of info on its web site until the initial lot of cameras is actually en route to retailers. That's just the way they do it.

But as far as the XLR jacks go, people here including Kennelmaster Chris, have had product briefings from Canon, have had their hands on pre-production XH cameras, and have posted pictures here on DVi. They say the only difference between the A1 and the G1 is the Pro Jackpack. That's enough evidence for me.

Chris Hurd · October 23rd, 2006, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Jenkins

Canon is still unusually vague about these cameras on their website, even though they are about to be released? No official general spec page? No tech specs?

Now you know how I felt, when I decided to launch the XL1 Watchdog back in 1997.

At any rate, Canon USA will *eventually* have more information on their web site, but in the meantime, refer to my XH Series Watchdog pages located at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxh/watchdog.php -- rest assured everything you see there is accurate, including the presence of XLR jacks on the XH A1 (and yes I have seen it myself, held it my own two hands, and once again yes there are XLR jacks).

If my site isn't good enough for you, if you must have a *Canon* reference, then simply go to the Canon Japan site and run their XH pages through a Google Language Tools translator:

http://cweb.canon.jp/prodv/xhg1/index.html

Hope this helps,

Bill Pryor · October 23rd, 2006, 10:03 AM

You're right, the web site totally sucks. I've been getting my info from Chris's XH Watchdog site here. Don't know why I said Canon web site when I meant watchdog site. There's a brochure pdf out there somewhere, but it doesn't have any specs either. I guess since the camera is the same thing as the H1 except for the lens and the differences Chris mentions, then they assume that's all that's needed.

Bill Pryor · October 23rd, 2006, 10:33 AM

Hereyago. It's on the Canon EU site. Scroll down to the bottom and you'll see the XLRs listed as a feature. I knew I had seen it on a Canon site someplace. The EU sites always have more info than the U.S. ones, it seems.

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home...ion_HDV/XH_A1/

Jack Jenkins · October 23rd, 2006, 12:02 PM

I know the info is out there, and Chris's FAQ site is awesome. I just find it really odd that they dont list this stuff thats available elesewhere on the US site.
Its quirky.

Jack Jenkins · October 23rd, 2006, 12:06 PM

It makes me think they are gonna do a quick last minute switch to 2/3" CMOS ccds...and H264 codec instead of HDV....LOL

Bill Pryor · October 23rd, 2006, 03:03 PM

Yeah, right, heheheh.
It's also weird that to get to their professional cameras you have to go to the consumer site and click on a picture of a little single chip camera. At least you can find their site. I remember when you really had to know somebody to even find Sony's site. There's some rule the equipment manufacturers have, I think, that it's unacceptable for them to have a really good web site.

October 20th, 2006, 11:47 PM	#1
Tyler Graas New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 12	A1 XLR input??? Does the A1 have an XLR input on it, like the G1? The lad at Vistek informed me that unfortunately the A1 was missing this feature.

October 21st, 2006, 08:11 AM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	That's right -- everything is identical between the A1 and G1 including the XLR jacks. The only difference is the SDI, Genlock and TimeCode jacks on the G1. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 23rd, 2006, 09:59 AM	#9
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	My recollection from previous camcorder releases is that Canon doesn't put that kind of info on its web site until the initial lot of cameras is actually en route to retailers. That's just the way they do it. But as far as the XLR jacks go, people here including Kennelmaster Chris, have had product briefings from Canon, have had their hands on pre-production XH cameras, and have posted pictures here on DVi. They say the only difference between the A1 and the G1 is the Pro Jackpack. That's enough evidence for me. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 21st, 2006, 12:53 AM	#2
Jack Jenkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 122	I see xlr's in the third shot down on an A1 body: http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxh/articles/images1.php I hope this is the way it ships. Nothing about xlr's on canon's site though in regards to A1 or G1.

October 21st, 2006, 04:28 AM	#3
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Both camera's are the same except for the professional jack pack. So yes, there are two XLR outputs on the Canon XH-A1. You see it on the pictures that Chris and posted in the forums and on the XH watchdog site.

October 21st, 2006, 10:01 AM	#5
Tyler Graas New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 12	That's what i thought too based on looking at the pictures. But i called vistek in Toronto (the largest supplier) and the guy in the camera department was trying to tell me the A1 had no XLR jacks. I had a feeling he was wrong. Especially when he was doing everything in his power to upsell me to the G1. He does not know when they ship. But their website says October 30th.

October 22nd, 2006, 03:38 AM	#6
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	He probarbly messed up the Sony HVR-FX7 and Sony HVR-V1 with the Canon XH-A1 and Canon XH-G1. The Sony HVR-FX7 has no XLR connections.

October 22nd, 2006, 03:59 PM	#7
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Tell the salesman to go check out Canon's website.

October 23rd, 2006, 09:41 AM	#8
Jack Jenkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 122	I believe that the xlrs are on the A1 but the odd thing is it doesnt say it anywhere that I can find on the canon site about xlr's on either cam. Canon is still unusually vague about these cameras on their website, even though they are about to be released? No official general spec page? No tech specs? What gives?

October 23rd, 2006, 10:03 AM	#11
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	You're right, the web site totally sucks. I've been getting my info from Chris's XH Watchdog site here. Don't know why I said Canon web site when I meant watchdog site. There's a brochure pdf out there somewhere, but it doesn't have any specs either. I guess since the camera is the same thing as the H1 except for the lens and the differences Chris mentions, then they assume that's all that's needed.

October 23rd, 2006, 10:33 AM	#12
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Hereyago. It's on the Canon EU site. Scroll down to the bottom and you'll see the XLRs listed as a feature. I knew I had seen it on a Canon site someplace. The EU sites always have more info than the U.S. ones, it seems. http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home...ion_HDV/XH_A1/

October 23rd, 2006, 12:02 PM	#13
Jack Jenkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 122	I know the info is out there, and Chris's FAQ site is awesome. I just find it really odd that they dont list this stuff thats available elesewhere on the US site. Its quirky.

October 23rd, 2006, 12:06 PM	#14
Jack Jenkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 122	It makes me think they are gonna do a quick last minute switch to 2/3" CMOS ccds...and H264 codec instead of HDV....LOL

October 23rd, 2006, 03:03 PM	#15
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Yeah, right, heheheh. It's also weird that to get to their professional cameras you have to go to the consumer site and click on a picture of a little single chip camera. At least you can find their site. I remember when you really had to know somebody to even find Sony's site. There's some rule the equipment manufacturers have, I think, that it's unacceptable for them to have a really good web site.