Canon XH batteries / battery thread

Matthew Nayman · September 9th, 2006, 12:18 PM

Will the standard canon input from the CH110 fit?

Karl Heiner · September 9th, 2006, 12:34 PM

makes no sence to me. how much effort/ moving around the camera, just to change a batt.?

greetings

Tim Le · September 9th, 2006, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Heiner

makes no sence to me. how much effort/ moving around the camera, just to change a batt.?

Correct me if I'm wrong Chris, but it doesn't seem like a lot of effort. You just push that one slider button, open the hatch and change the battery. It's similar to the way you change the battery on any digital camera.

The advantage of a totally internal battery bay is that no matter what size battery you use, the size of the camera remains the same, i.e. no big battery poking you in the nose if you use the viewfinder.

Chris Hurd · September 9th, 2006, 05:23 PM

That's right Tim; the extra "trouble" of an internal batt. adds all of about one second to the time it takes to change batts. It's simply no big deal, and the benefits of an internal mount (especially in colder weather) far outweigh any drawbacks. Honestly I can't think of any drawbacks. You get seven hours endurance from a BP-970G in this camera.

Jack Jenkins · September 9th, 2006, 08:05 PM

So Chris, I see a cable plugged into the HD out, did you happen to look up from the battery compartment and see any footage?????

Chris Hurd · September 10th, 2006, 04:04 AM

It was cabled to an LCD monitor. Now I'll have to go back and see what kind it is.

The look of the video is all Canon, exactly like the XL H1 as far as I could tell.

Matthew Nayman · September 10th, 2006, 12:51 PM

any word on my question about the CH110??

Wes Vasher · September 10th, 2006, 01:44 PM

I live in Michigan, shoot in cold weather and your battery doesn't last very long at all. Sure you can make your own battery "coats" but internal battery bays are kind of nice.

Pete Cofrancesco · September 12th, 2006, 07:45 PM

A positive of an internal battery is that it can't get bumped off. On my vx2000 when i used the the large 970 batteries i've broken contact occassionally when the back of the camera is pushed up against my body. Let me tell you its no small deal when in the middle of shooting the camera goes dead.

Chris Hurd · September 12th, 2006, 07:58 PM

For Matthew -- the CH-910 dual battery holder / charger connects to the Canon GL, XL and XH camcorders using a dummy battery plate which attaches to the external battery well on those camcorders. What you would have to do with the XH cams is to rig a special cable that has the proper ring / tip sleeves on both ends and connect it to the camera at its DC input jack. So I suppose you could fabricate such a thing, but I would have to ask, why would you bother. The BP-970G battery will power an A1 or G1 for about seven hours... are you really going to need constant, uninterrupted DC power for longer than that amount of time?

Matthew Nayman · September 13th, 2006, 08:21 AM

So you are saying the CH910 is not "techincally" a supported add on for the XH

I only ask because I own for my Xl2 and 2 BP 945's which provide an awful lot of power. Would be nice to retain its usefullness.

Chris Hurd · September 13th, 2006, 09:37 AM

Right, technically it is not supported (think about it... how would you attach the dummy battery plate to a connector that's inside that internal battery compartment?) -- but you could probably rig a special cable to the DC input jack using the workaround I described above.

One BP-970G is almost like having two BP-945 batteries anyway, so no big deal.

Matthew Nayman · September 13th, 2006, 03:52 PM

I guess you're right Chris. As always. I can also use the 945's independently...

I did notice that two 945's running seperate dont last as long as coupled on the Ch910. Any reason?

Who much is the 970? I would love to put two on the Ch910! I would never have to turn it off!

But yes, I will probably purchase one with the XhA1

Pete Bauer · September 15th, 2006, 09:18 AM

Chris, looking at the pictures on the Watchdog, I'm not finding any port to connect a DC power supply. Does this mean that the XH cameras can ONLY be powered by the battery, with no capability at all to run off converted wall current?

Chris Hurd · September 15th, 2006, 10:06 AM

Well now that you mention it Pete, I can't find it either. But surely it has one, perhaps underneath somewhere. Looks like I'll have to ask Canon USA to clarify its location for us.

September 9th, 2006, 05:23 PM	#19
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	That's right Tim; the extra "trouble" of an internal batt. adds all of about one second to the time it takes to change batts. It's simply no big deal, and the benefits of an internal mount (especially in colder weather) far outweigh any drawbacks. Honestly I can't think of any drawbacks. You get seven hours endurance from a BP-970G in this camera. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 9th, 2006, 08:05 PM	#20
Jack Jenkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 122	footage? So Chris, I see a cable plugged into the HD out, did you happen to look up from the battery compartment and see any footage?????

September 10th, 2006, 04:04 AM	#21
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	It was cabled to an LCD monitor. Now I'll have to go back and see what kind it is. The look of the video is all Canon, exactly like the XL H1 as far as I could tell. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 12th, 2006, 07:58 PM	#25
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	For Matthew -- the CH-910 dual battery holder / charger connects to the Canon GL, XL and XH camcorders using a dummy battery plate which attaches to the external battery well on those camcorders. What you would have to do with the XH cams is to rig a special cable that has the proper ring / tip sleeves on both ends and connect it to the camera at its DC input jack. So I suppose you could fabricate such a thing, but I would have to ask, why would you bother. The BP-970G battery will power an A1 or G1 for about seven hours... are you really going to need constant, uninterrupted DC power for longer than that amount of time? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 13th, 2006, 09:37 AM	#27
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Right, technically it is not supported (think about it... how would you attach the dummy battery plate to a connector that's inside that internal battery compartment?) -- but you could probably rig a special cable to the DC input jack using the workaround I described above. One BP-970G is almost like having two BP-945 batteries anyway, so no big deal. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 9th, 2006, 12:18 PM	#16
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	Will the standard canon input from the CH110 fit?

September 9th, 2006, 12:34 PM	#17
Karl Heiner Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: california Posts: 342	makes no sence to me. how much effort/ moving around the camera, just to change a batt.? greetings

September 10th, 2006, 12:51 PM	#22
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	any word on my question about the CH110??

September 10th, 2006, 01:44 PM	#23
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	I live in Michigan, shoot in cold weather and your battery doesn't last very long at all. Sure you can make your own battery "coats" but internal battery bays are kind of nice.

September 12th, 2006, 07:45 PM	#24
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,005	A positive of an internal battery is that it can't get bumped off. On my vx2000 when i used the the large 970 batteries i've broken contact occassionally when the back of the camera is pushed up against my body. Let me tell you its no small deal when in the middle of shooting the camera goes dead.

September 13th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#26
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	So you are saying the CH910 is not "techincally" a supported add on for the XH I only ask because I own for my Xl2 and 2 BP 945's which provide an awful lot of power. Would be nice to retain its usefullness.

September 13th, 2006, 03:52 PM	#28
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	I guess you're right Chris. As always. I can also use the 945's independently... I did notice that two 945's running seperate dont last as long as coupled on the Ch910. Any reason? Who much is the 970? I would love to put two on the Ch910! I would never have to turn it off! But yes, I will probably purchase one with the XhA1

September 15th, 2006, 09:18 AM	#29
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Chris, looking at the pictures on the Watchdog, I'm not finding any port to connect a DC power supply. Does this mean that the XH cameras can ONLY be powered by the battery, with no capability at all to run off converted wall current? __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

September 15th, 2006, 10:06 AM	#30
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Well now that you mention it Pete, I can't find it either. But surely it has one, perhaps underneath somewhere. Looks like I'll have to ask Canon USA to clarify its location for us. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!