Which one would you buy?

Tom Hardwick · October 14th, 2006, 07:41 AM

Yes, I realised what you meant as the replies came in Victor. But having an aperture control ring around the lens is more historical convention than it is a photographic desirability in my view.

DSLRs have long since abandoned the aperture ring around the lens, and cameras like the Z1 have replaced it with a beautifully damped, knured alloy knob thet's excellently placed to 'roll' your thumb across to imperceptably change aperture.

tom.

Victor Burdiladze · October 15th, 2006, 10:28 PM

I understand what you mean Tom, yet all the 35mm cinema lenses have manual ring for iris opening and for good reason. I also think, when it comes to professional, moving image acquisition, ARRI/ZEISS is much higher standard then DSLRs and Z1.
Vic

Anthony Leong · December 6th, 2006, 06:12 PM

In January 2006, I was looking toward the Panasonic HVX200 but I thought the P2 cards was too expensive in my opinion. So, I waited until November and was looking at the Canon XH-A1 vs Sony FX-7. The price for the Sony FX-7 was basically $1000 cheaper than the Canon XH-A1, but I really like the features on the Canon XH-A1. I placed an order for the Canon XH-A1 last Friday and it came in stock on Monday and will arrive tomorrow. I can't wait until tomorrow, it will be a early Xmas for myself.

Victor Burdiladze · December 6th, 2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Leong

In January 2006, I was looking toward the Panasonic HVX200 but I thought the P2 cards was too expensive in my opinion. So, I waited until November and was looking at the Canon XH-A1 vs Sony FX-7. The price for the Sony FX-7 was basically $1000 cheaper than the Canon XH-A1, but I really like the features on the Canon XH-A1. I placed an order for the Canon XH-A1 last Friday and it came in stock on Monday and will arrive tomorrow. I can't wait until tomorrow, it will be a early Xmas for myself.

I wish you a good shooting times on that one Anthony...

Nathan Brendan Masters · December 17th, 2006, 04:39 PM

Honestly, I was leaning toward the FX1 because it was cheaper but honestly 800 lines of res (Canon's 24f) versus 500 lines (Sony's 30CF) well I think we know where this is going. I've seen great thing's produced with both but if I ever do a screen from digital projection I would really prefer 800 LOR. Even if I'm just doing an HDDVD or something. The A1 has it all, (at least all that I would want) so I'm going for that one.

-Nate

Michael Wisniewski · January 4th, 2007, 11:51 PM

Well that's it, I quit sitting on the fence and finally got the XH A1. I was going back and forth between the V1U and A1, and couldn't decide what I liked better: the color of the V1U image or the image detail in the A1. The whole dilemma was solved by a great price from Steve Nunez.

Philip Williams · January 5th, 2007, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Wisniewski

Well that's it, I quit sitting on the fence and finally got the XH A1. I was going back and forth between the V1U and A1, and couldn't decide what I liked better: the color of the V1U image or the image detail in the A1. The whole dilemma was solved by a great price from Steve Nunez.

Congrats! You won't be dissappointed. Sounds like you a got a great deal too.

Bill Pryor · January 5th, 2007, 09:17 AM

Yeah, there's nothing to not like about the A1 (other than that you have to go to the menu to turn on and off the OIS, as you do with many other 1/3" chip cameras). Excellent price too.

Nathan Brendan Masters · January 5th, 2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Wisniewski

Well that's it, I quit sitting on the fence and finally got the XH A1. I was going back and forth between the V1U and A1, and couldn't decide what I liked better: the color of the V1U image or the image detail in the A1. The whole dilemma was solved by a great price from Steve Nunez.

Congrats you lucky bastich. Had I seen that price I would snatched it right from under you. Good work Michael, keeping an eye out for the best deals. I hope to see footage from you. I have yet to see any of Canon's 1080 footage so I hope you post some. Good looking out to you man and again congrats.

-Nate

Michael Wisniewski · January 5th, 2007, 09:30 PM

Thanks guys, I'm off to some tropical islands through the middle of February. I'll make sure to post some footage.

Piotr Wozniacki · January 27th, 2007, 11:30 AM

Congrats Michael - I'd be buying the A1 as well (unless Sony comes up with a working fix for the 25p mode of the V1E).

Amr Toukhy · February 6th, 2007, 08:17 AM

i really wish if owners of the A1 could be able to upgrade to the G1 anytime !!!
SDI is cooland important when you need it, like shooting chroma at a studio !!!

Chris Hurd · February 6th, 2007, 09:02 AM

But an A1 owner certainly *can* upgrade to a G1, at any time. Here are the steps:

1. Sell the A1.

2. Buy the G1.

I don't mean to be facetious, but that is the standard upgrade path and it's always available.

Bill Pryor · February 6th, 2007, 09:44 AM

Or buy the G1 in the first place if you do a lot of studio work and need it.

Tom Hardwick · February 6th, 2007, 01:47 PM

Just had my first real play with a G1 at the Video Forum in London today, and must say I'm most impressed. Could do with a bigger side-screen, but the dedicated buttons, knobs and wheels really poke the V1 in the eye.

View Poll Results: Between the XH G1 and XH A1, which one would you buy?
XH G1 for $7000, because I need the pro jacks and SDI.	40	10.00%
XH A1 for $4000, I don't need those pro jacks nor SDI.	360	90.00%
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January 5th, 2007, 09:30 PM	#115
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Thanks guys, I'm off to some tropical islands through the middle of February. I'll make sure to post some footage. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

February 6th, 2007, 09:02 AM	#118
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	But an A1 owner certainly can upgrade to a G1, at any time. Here are the steps: 1. Sell the A1. 2. Buy the G1. I don't mean to be facetious, but that is the standard upgrade path and it's always available. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 14th, 2006, 07:41 AM	#106
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Yes, I realised what you meant as the replies came in Victor. But having an aperture control ring around the lens is more historical convention than it is a photographic desirability in my view. DSLRs have long since abandoned the aperture ring around the lens, and cameras like the Z1 have replaced it with a beautifully damped, knured alloy knob thet's excellently placed to 'roll' your thumb across to imperceptably change aperture. tom.

October 15th, 2006, 10:28 PM	#107
Victor Burdiladze Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NY, US Posts: 102	I understand what you mean Tom, yet all the 35mm cinema lenses have manual ring for iris opening and for good reason. I also think, when it comes to professional, moving image acquisition, ARRI/ZEISS is much higher standard then DSLRs and Z1. Vic

December 6th, 2006, 06:12 PM	#108
Anthony Leong Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 93	In January 2006, I was looking toward the Panasonic HVX200 but I thought the P2 cards was too expensive in my opinion. So, I waited until November and was looking at the Canon XH-A1 vs Sony FX-7. The price for the Sony FX-7 was basically $1000 cheaper than the Canon XH-A1, but I really like the features on the Canon XH-A1. I placed an order for the Canon XH-A1 last Friday and it came in stock on Monday and will arrive tomorrow. I can't wait until tomorrow, it will be a early Xmas for myself.

December 17th, 2006, 04:39 PM	#110
Nathan Brendan Masters Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, Il. Posts: 85	Honestly, I was leaning toward the FX1 because it was cheaper but honestly 800 lines of res (Canon's 24f) versus 500 lines (Sony's 30CF) well I think we know where this is going. I've seen great thing's produced with both but if I ever do a screen from digital projection I would really prefer 800 LOR. Even if I'm just doing an HDDVD or something. The A1 has it all, (at least all that I would want) so I'm going for that one. -Nate

January 5th, 2007, 09:17 AM	#113
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Yeah, there's nothing to not like about the A1 (other than that you have to go to the menu to turn on and off the OIS, as you do with many other 1/3" chip cameras). Excellent price too.

January 27th, 2007, 11:30 AM	#116
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	Congrats Michael - I'd be buying the A1 as well (unless Sony comes up with a working fix for the 25p mode of the V1E).

February 6th, 2007, 08:17 AM	#117
Amr Toukhy Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Amman-Jordan Posts: 112	i really wish if owners of the A1 could be able to upgrade to the G1 anytime !!! SDI is cooland important when you need it, like shooting chroma at a studio !!!

February 6th, 2007, 09:44 AM	#119
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Or buy the G1 in the first place if you do a lot of studio work and need it.

February 6th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#120
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Just had my first real play with a G1 at the Video Forum in London today, and must say I'm most impressed. Could do with a bigger side-screen, but the dedicated buttons, knobs and wheels really poke the V1 in the eye.