Kidney For Sale: $3999

Philip Williams · July 26th, 2006, 10:20 AM

Wow, I have GOT to get some cash together. The HVX is still my personal favorite, but at 4K the XHA1 is a heck of a deal. Wanna shoot some narrative film stuff? 24F ready to go. HD wedding gig next weekend? 1080i standing by.

This is exactly the camera I was hoping Canon would release. XLRs, 20X zoom, tons of manual controls, 24fps... and at a price that mere mortals might be able to afford. MPEG2 isn't my first choice for aquisition and I know that the purportedly superior AVCHD codec is around the corner, but it just doesn't change the fact that I think this camera is going to rock. Guess I'm still just a Cannon guy at heart...

Oh yes, please email best offers on the kidney *

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* NOTE: kidney may be damaged or non-functional due to excessive Mountain Dew consumption. Not responsible for death, yellowish skin tone discoloration or uncontrollable need for caffeine. Kidney is non refundable.

Peter Ferling · July 26th, 2006, 10:48 AM

What are you going to do if you want a TWO camera shoot?

Peter Moore · July 26th, 2006, 11:06 AM

It indeed is the camera we've been waiting for for about 2 years now.

Philip Williams · July 26th, 2006, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Ferling

What are you going to do if you want a TWO camera shoot?

dialysis

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K. Forman · July 26th, 2006, 11:24 AM

Ummm... you might want factor in an arm and a leg for shipping, handling, tapes and batteries.

Peter Ferling · July 26th, 2006, 12:02 PM

Then he'd have to hire someone to either hold the camera, or help hold him up.

Heath McKnight · July 26th, 2006, 12:11 PM

I want to check out the cameras, unless they're 100% identical, minus the HD SDI output, etc. I wonder how the glass is, etc.

hwm

Greg Boston · July 26th, 2006, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

I want to check out the cameras, unless they're 100% identical, minus the HD SDI output, etc. I wonder how the glass is, etc.

hwm

That's it Heath, they are identical except for the 'professional jack pack' as Canon calls it. SDI, Genlock, and TC in/out are the only features that separate the two cameras. Other than that...identical.

-gb-

Heath McKnight · July 26th, 2006, 12:21 PM

Since I'm a bit lazy (grin), what are the SRPs (suggested retail prices)?

heath

Dominic Jones · July 26th, 2006, 01:01 PM

$4k and $7k respectively, if I remember rightly. So you're paying $3k for the "jack pack", essentially...

Boyd Ostroff · July 26th, 2006, 01:11 PM

They do look very cool - nice job Canon! But as others have mentioned, the styling is very similar to the Z1 except for the LCD placement and that round dial. It's funny the way that Canon makes such a strong design statement with the XL series but not with these. Regardless, it looks like these cameras were worth waiting for! :-)

Matt Davis · July 26th, 2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff

styling is very similar to the Z1 except for the LCD placement and that round dial.

There's a small part of me that envisions the following...

Darth FX-1: "I am your father"

Luke XH-A1: "Nooooooo!"

The Canon is going to kill the Z1. Watch eBay in Sept/Oct.

Even if it *is* still vapourware ("I feel deep stirrings in the vapour..."), the vapour tells us 'Better lens, better progressive mode, better tweakability, better outputs, better rez. - egad, better Auto Focus...'

So Luke G1 sees Senator Palpetine Z1 booming down the plug-hole... Meanwhile, the aforementioned little part of me is going to bed, very excited.

Thomas Smet · July 26th, 2006, 01:40 PM

You could always sell certain body fluids. You do have a months after all.

Heath McKnight · July 26th, 2006, 01:57 PM

Canon doesn't do vaporware--their policy is to have the camera ready to ship within a couple of months. That's always what they've done. I respect that, actually.

As for being a Z1 killer, who knows? The Z1, like the HD100, has sold thousands of units world wide. It's amazing how quickly HDV has been accepted vs. DV 11 years ago. But I suspect it's because digital filmmaking is now an accepted way to shoot vs. analog, like BetaSP.

heath

Boyd Ostroff · July 26th, 2006, 02:04 PM

Well if I was camera shopping those new Canon's would certainly be the ones to beat (from what I've seen so far). But like Heath said, Sony has already done very well with the Z1 and FX1, plus they have far more HD cameras in their lineup than anyone else. They could drop the price on the FX1 and Z1 and still continue to do nicely, and who knows what else they may have up their sleeves?

July 26th, 2006, 10:20 AM	#1
Philip Williams Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 614	Kidney For Sale: $3999 - Must sell by Oct Wow, I have GOT to get some cash together. The HVX is still my personal favorite, but at 4K the XHA1 is a heck of a deal. Wanna shoot some narrative film stuff? 24F ready to go. HD wedding gig next weekend? 1080i standing by. This is exactly the camera I was hoping Canon would release. XLRs, 20X zoom, tons of manual controls, 24fps... and at a price that mere mortals might be able to afford. MPEG2 isn't my first choice for aquisition and I know that the purportedly superior AVCHD codec is around the corner, but it just doesn't change the fact that I think this camera is going to rock. Guess I'm still just a Cannon guy at heart... Oh yes, please email best offers on the kidney * www.philipwilliams.com * NOTE: kidney may be damaged or non-functional due to excessive Mountain Dew consumption. Not responsible for death, yellowish skin tone discoloration or uncontrollable need for caffeine. Kidney is non refundable.

July 26th, 2006, 10:48 AM	#2
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	What are you going to do if you want a TWO camera shoot? __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

July 26th, 2006, 11:24 AM	#5
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	Ummm... you might want factor in an arm and a leg for shipping, handling, tapes and batteries. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

July 26th, 2006, 12:02 PM	#6
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Then he'd have to hire someone to either hold the camera, or help hold him up. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

July 26th, 2006, 12:11 PM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I want to check out the cameras, unless they're 100% identical, minus the HD SDI output, etc. I wonder how the glass is, etc. hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 26th, 2006, 11:06 AM	#3
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	It indeed is the camera we've been waiting for for about 2 years now.

July 26th, 2006, 12:21 PM	#9
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Since I'm a bit lazy (grin), what are the SRPs (suggested retail prices)? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 26th, 2006, 01:01 PM	#10
Dominic Jones Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 225	$4k and $7k respectively, if I remember rightly. So you're paying $3k for the "jack pack", essentially...

July 26th, 2006, 01:11 PM	#11
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,800	They do look very cool - nice job Canon! But as others have mentioned, the styling is very similar to the Z1 except for the LCD placement and that round dial. It's funny the way that Canon makes such a strong design statement with the XL series but not with these. Regardless, it looks like these cameras were worth waiting for! :-)

July 26th, 2006, 01:40 PM	#13
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	You could always sell certain body fluids. You do have a months after all.

July 26th, 2006, 01:57 PM	#14
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Canon doesn't do vaporware--their policy is to have the camera ready to ship within a couple of months. That's always what they've done. I respect that, actually. As for being a Z1 killer, who knows? The Z1, like the HD100, has sold thousands of units world wide. It's amazing how quickly HDV has been accepted vs. DV 11 years ago. But I suspect it's because digital filmmaking is now an accepted way to shoot vs. analog, like BetaSP. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 26th, 2006, 02:04 PM	#15
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,800	Well if I was camera shopping those new Canon's would certainly be the ones to beat (from what I've seen so far). But like Heath said, Sony has already done very well with the Z1 and FX1, plus they have far more HD cameras in their lineup than anyone else. They could drop the price on the FX1 and Z1 and still continue to do nicely, and who knows what else they may have up their sleeves?