60i to 24p at DVinfo.net

Keegan Quiroz · November 3rd, 2009, 04:36 PM

I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to find any clear instructions on how to do this? Right now I have raw 60i footage and I would like to make it 24p. I don't even know where to start. I've heard cinema tools might be able to do this?
Thanks

Tripp Woelfel · November 3rd, 2009, 06:51 PM

Your NLE should be able to do it. There's no way that I know of to convert in the camera.

Keegan Quiroz · November 3rd, 2009, 08:06 PM

Yeah I mean in the NLE. I have final cut

Paul Kepen · November 3rd, 2009, 11:32 PM

I've tried it in both Premier Pro and Sony Vegas. Generally I found sticking with 60i gave better results. It is sharper and the conversion to 24p results in noticeable blurring and strobing if there is any motion faster then the slowest of slow. I try to be very slow and deliberate with camera movement, but even the wave of a hand by someone in the scene is terrible. Maybe someone knows some special trick settings to apply? Good Luck

Keegan Quiroz · November 4th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Yeah does anyone else have any ideas?

Joel Peregrine · November 4th, 2009, 10:25 AM

What platform are you on (PC or Mac) and what software do you have access to?

Chris Barcellos · November 4th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Try looking here:

Film Look Deinterlacing for DV - DVFilm Maker, aka DVFilmmaker

Cineform

Jack Walker · November 4th, 2009, 04:16 PM

Try the DVFilmaker trial.

Stu Siegal · November 5th, 2009, 11:41 AM

Red Giant/Magic Bullet has an FCP plugin. I've never tried it, but their other products are great and there is a trial download.

Richard Penuela · November 5th, 2009, 02:20 PM

Now I read that 24f is not that great in slow motion. So would it be better ultimately to shoot in 60i then convert to 24p?

J.J. Kim · November 5th, 2009, 04:57 PM

I shoot in 30P at all time.
Or you can shoot in 60i and de-interlace (or export with no filed order) when you export.
If I need to export it out to 24P, I do it @ Media Encoder.
I use PP, so am not sure 100% how to do it in FC.
If you search a bit in there, I am sure you will find some answers.
I stop using 24P because there are lots of fast movement during prep on the weddings and I do lots of pan and tilt.
Just my personal pref, that's all.
I do know 24P looks different ( in a good way), but I convert them at exporting process.
Hope that helps a bit.

JJ

Mike Flynn · November 5th, 2009, 06:33 PM

I have the Magic Bullet plugin (called Magic Bullet Frames) and I have been pretty happy with the 60i -> 24p results.

November 3rd, 2009, 04:36 PM	#1
Keegan Quiroz New Boot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Santa Cruz , CA Posts: 24	60i to 24p I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't seem to find any clear instructions on how to do this? Right now I have raw 60i footage and I would like to make it 24p. I don't even know where to start. I've heard cinema tools might be able to do this? Thanks

November 4th, 2009, 01:01 PM	#7
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Try looking here: Film Look Deinterlacing for DV - DVFilm Maker, aka DVFilmmaker Cineform __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

November 5th, 2009, 11:41 AM	#9
Stu Siegal Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 151	Red Giant/Magic Bullet has an FCP plugin. I've never tried it, but their other products are great and there is a trial download. __________________ www.stusiegal.com

November 3rd, 2009, 06:51 PM	#2
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Your NLE should be able to do it. There's no way that I know of to convert in the camera.

November 3rd, 2009, 08:06 PM	#3
Keegan Quiroz New Boot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Santa Cruz , CA Posts: 24	Yeah I mean in the NLE. I have final cut

November 3rd, 2009, 11:32 PM	#4
Paul Kepen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis Minnesota Posts: 347	I've tried it in both Premier Pro and Sony Vegas. Generally I found sticking with 60i gave better results. It is sharper and the conversion to 24p results in noticeable blurring and strobing if there is any motion faster then the slowest of slow. I try to be very slow and deliberate with camera movement, but even the wave of a hand by someone in the scene is terrible. Maybe someone knows some special trick settings to apply? Good Luck

November 4th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#5
Keegan Quiroz New Boot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Santa Cruz , CA Posts: 24	Yeah does anyone else have any ideas?

November 4th, 2009, 10:25 AM	#6
Joel Peregrine Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 689	What platform are you on (PC or Mac) and what software do you have access to?

November 4th, 2009, 04:16 PM	#8
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	Try the DVFilmaker trial.

November 5th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#10
Richard Penuela Tourist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3	Now I read that 24f is not that great in slow motion. So would it be better ultimately to shoot in 60i then convert to 24p?

November 5th, 2009, 04:57 PM	#11
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	I shoot in 30P at all time. Or you can shoot in 60i and de-interlace (or export with no filed order) when you export. If I need to export it out to 24P, I do it @ Media Encoder. I use PP, so am not sure 100% how to do it in FC. If you search a bit in there, I am sure you will find some answers. I stop using 24P because there are lots of fast movement during prep on the weddings and I do lots of pan and tilt. Just my personal pref, that's all. I do know 24P looks different ( in a good way), but I convert them at exporting process. Hope that helps a bit. JJ

November 5th, 2009, 06:33 PM	#12
Mike Flynn Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 94	I have the Magic Bullet plugin (called Magic Bullet Frames) and I have been pretty happy with the 60i -> 24p results.