File format with Pinnacle 12 and XHA1 at DVinfo.net

Frank Garrod · April 20th, 2009, 12:23 PM

I am very new to this, and shoot only DV mode and capture to Pinnacle , then edit and save as .avi

BUT why did I get a HDV camcorder and not use HDV mode , My videos are played mostly at local bars on old tv's, but more and more bars have newer LCD's 42"-55" and I need to bump it up a notch... The thing is, editing HDV take alot longer to render on my pc, and nobody complained, but I am not happy with the look. SO, anyone out there have a minute or two... If I video in HDV using Pinnacle 12 and then edit what format do I save the file in?so I can make my regular DVD's and then maybe a few BLU-Rays............. thanks , Frank Garrod

Bill Koehler · April 20th, 2009, 02:51 PM

If you're shooting HDV, then you will end up selecting the project type of 1440x1080/60i.
Or you can tell Studio to auto-select the project type from the first video clip you drop into a project.
That way you will maintain high definition all the way to final output and pick up the correct aspect ratio.
Then, when you 'Make Movie' to DVD, Studio will automatically render to NTSC Widescreen DVD.

When you render to DVD, that by definition is Std. Def.
So the quality will improve because your source is better, and the aspect ratio of the picture will change, that is all.

As regards being unhappy about your computer taking longer to process HDV, neither your post or profile say anything about what your current system is. I shoot HDV using a Sony HDR-HC9 and am running a 2.4 GHz Intel Q6600 and am quite happy with its performance.

Frank Garrod · April 20th, 2009, 05:50 PM

I am changing the graphics card and 2gb to 4gb.
I want to have the entire file saved at the highest resolution and be able to make regular DVD's and be able to make ACHVD or Blu-ray disks

Bill Koehler · April 20th, 2009, 08:08 PM

Keep that original footage! Keep that original project!

If you have a project that you render to an output file...
and then you run that output file back through Studio later to 'Make Movie' to alternate targets...

Each time you do that, Studio rerenders your footage, which means you are losing resolution. And believe me, it can be pretty bad. Especially if you are working in HD.

You always want to go as directly from source footage to final output as possible.
As in the only thing that changes is what your target is in 'Make Movie', not that you save an output file to run through Studio - again - sometime later.

I hope that's clear.

Frank Garrod · April 21st, 2009, 09:48 AM

So I edit, then go to make movie and save as a file.
What file format do I save the HD project as?
I can keep that fully edited file as a master?
and then use that master back in Studio to brn a DVD disk or what I want?
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Frank Garrod · April 29th, 2009, 05:05 AM

What file format do I save the edited HDV version as in order to get the best resolution?

Bill Koehler · April 29th, 2009, 11:19 AM

You'll have to experiment for yourself, I'm afraid.
So far I just go to DVD - that's what my church wants.

But I keep all the original footage + project, so if in the future someone wants BluRay, or whatever, I can reload the project and render directly to the desired target.

Remember what I said - each and every time you run your footage through Studio, it rerenders the footage, and the resolution loss can be pretty bad. So you want to keep your original footage + project so going from footage to output is always a one pass deal. Period.

I am transitioning to using Sony Vegas Movie Studio. The learning curve is much higher than Studio, but among other things, if it doesn't need to rerender your footage (no color correction, no lighting changes, etc...) then your footage passes right on through, original resolution intact.

Little things like shooting double system audio and getting it synched also work better with Vegas. I had consistent problems in Studio. So I am walking away.

Brian Pratt · May 4th, 2009, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Garrod

but more and more bars have newer LCD's 42"-55" and I need to bump it up a notch...

What are the bars using for playback into their LCD's .. Bluray players ? If yes then buy a BluRay burner for your PC and burn BluRays.

April 20th, 2009, 12:23 PM	#1
Frank Garrod Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 53	File format with Pinnacle 12 and XHA1 I am very new to this, and shoot only DV mode and capture to Pinnacle , then edit and save as .avi BUT why did I get a HDV camcorder and not use HDV mode , My videos are played mostly at local bars on old tv's, but more and more bars have newer LCD's 42"-55" and I need to bump it up a notch... The thing is, editing HDV take alot longer to render on my pc, and nobody complained, but I am not happy with the look. SO, anyone out there have a minute or two... If I video in HDV using Pinnacle 12 and then edit what format do I save the file in?so I can make my regular DVD's and then maybe a few BLU-Rays............. thanks , Frank Garrod

April 20th, 2009, 05:50 PM	#3
Frank Garrod Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 53	thanks Bill I am changing the graphics card and 2gb to 4gb. I want to have the entire file saved at the highest resolution and be able to make regular DVD's and be able to make ACHVD or Blu-ray disks

April 21st, 2009, 09:48 AM	#5
Frank Garrod Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 53	thanks again, Bill So I edit, then go to make movie and save as a file. What file format do I save the HD project as? I can keep that fully edited file as a master? and then use that master back in Studio to brn a DVD disk or what I want? ---------------------------

April 29th, 2009, 05:05 AM	#6
Frank Garrod Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 53	saving output file What file format do I save the edited HDV version as in order to get the best resolution?

April 20th, 2009, 02:51 PM	#2
Bill Koehler Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 760	If you're shooting HDV, then you will end up selecting the project type of 1440x1080/60i. Or you can tell Studio to auto-select the project type from the first video clip you drop into a project. That way you will maintain high definition all the way to final output and pick up the correct aspect ratio. Then, when you 'Make Movie' to DVD, Studio will automatically render to NTSC Widescreen DVD. When you render to DVD, that by definition is Std. Def. So the quality will improve because your source is better, and the aspect ratio of the picture will change, that is all. As regards being unhappy about your computer taking longer to process HDV, neither your post or profile say anything about what your current system is. I shoot HDV using a Sony HDR-HC9 and am running a 2.4 GHz Intel Q6600 and am quite happy with its performance.

April 20th, 2009, 08:08 PM	#4
Bill Koehler Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 760	Keep that original footage! Keep that original project! If you have a project that you render to an output file... and then you run that output file back through Studio later to 'Make Movie' to alternate targets... Each time you do that, Studio rerenders your footage, which means you are losing resolution. And believe me, it can be pretty bad. Especially if you are working in HD. You always want to go as directly from source footage to final output as possible. As in the only thing that changes is what your target is in 'Make Movie', not that you save an output file to run through Studio - again - sometime later. I hope that's clear.

April 29th, 2009, 11:19 AM	#7
Bill Koehler Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 760	You'll have to experiment for yourself, I'm afraid. So far I just go to DVD - that's what my church wants. But I keep all the original footage + project, so if in the future someone wants BluRay, or whatever, I can reload the project and render directly to the desired target. Remember what I said - each and every time you run your footage through Studio, it rerenders the footage, and the resolution loss can be pretty bad. So you want to keep your original footage + project so going from footage to output is always a one pass deal. Period. I am transitioning to using Sony Vegas Movie Studio. The learning curve is much higher than Studio, but among other things, if it doesn't need to rerender your footage (no color correction, no lighting changes, etc...) then your footage passes right on through, original resolution intact. Little things like shooting double system audio and getting it synched also work better with Vegas. I had consistent problems in Studio. So I am walking away.