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Patrick Surace · April 13th, 2009, 04:40 PM

Hi All,

I have some quick questions. Obviously I'm using an XHA1 and Premiere CS4. I've read around that since there's no need for the Canon HDV plug ins anymore to just use 30P for my 30F import if I have recorded at 30F.

I did this a few times before but, today I noticed that my footage is not at all nice. I'm getting heavy pixelation and the footage was rather well lit as I was outside and didn't have gain up at all. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Here's a link to a jpg of 100%:

http://www.patricksurace.com/output/deliver/badXHA1.jpg

As you can see the quality is also set to highest?

Any help would be appreciated.

Patrick

Bradley Ouellette · April 13th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Are you using the trial version/download from there website. Cause if you are it will only allow Standard Definition...

Patrick Surace · April 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM

Nope, proud owner Adobe CS4 Master Collection...I have a 5D II also, can't use it without CS4, and I don't use Canons apps.

Bradley Ouellette · April 13th, 2009, 08:51 PM

What are you're render settings for the video? Make sure they stay the same when they are exported to the adobe media encoder thing. First time i did it, for some reason it changed them on me.

Battle Vaughan · April 14th, 2009, 09:25 AM

One possibility is a bug in encoder, in which (for quicktime, not sure about others) it does not pick up the bitrate you set in Premiere output, and defaults to 1000 kbps; HDV needs 25000, so people have been scratching their heads about low-quality .mov output ...you have to re-set the bitrate in encoder before you output...afaik this affects any output mode in which the bitrate is selectable in Premiere.

They did not fix this in the .2 update, I made a point of it with Adobe support and they say they know about the problem. Knowing and fixing are two different things, apparently...../ Battle Vaughan /miamiherald.com video team

Patrick Surace · April 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Well....thanks for the help so far. Yes I noticed that media encoder does whatever it likes anyways. I always double check. While we're on that anyone ever figure out how to get media encoder to use the "work area bar"? If i have a sequence with 10 clips in it, and i set the work area bar to lets say, the 6th clip...it will start it from the beginning of the 6th clip as requested, but instead of ending at the end of that clip it sets the bar to the end of the sequence. Even if i reifix it back in media encoder it outputs the remainder of the sequence. My only solution for this is to put the clip i want to render into it's own sequence and render that out as a full sequence, very odd.

Back to the original point of this post...oddly enough this must be a Premiere problem, the jpg supplied above is only that bad IN premiere...rendered frames in After Effects are much nicer.

SO odd. one last thing....rendering anything compresed QT out of after effects amkes my movies have a milky overlay...really gross, any solutions there?

-Patrick

April 13th, 2009, 04:40 PM	#1
Patrick Surace New Boot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 9	XHA1 Premiere CS4 Capture Hi All, I have some quick questions. Obviously I'm using an XHA1 and Premiere CS4. I've read around that since there's no need for the Canon HDV plug ins anymore to just use 30P for my 30F import if I have recorded at 30F. I did this a few times before but, today I noticed that my footage is not at all nice. I'm getting heavy pixelation and the footage was rather well lit as I was outside and didn't have gain up at all. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there something I'm doing wrong? Here's a link to a jpg of 100%: http://www.patricksurace.com/output/deliver/badXHA1.jpg As you can see the quality is also set to highest? Any help would be appreciated. Patrick

April 13th, 2009, 05:43 PM	#2
Bradley Ouellette Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 78	Are you using the trial version/download from there website. Cause if you are it will only allow Standard Definition... __________________ University of Windsor student. Trying to find funds for gear...

April 13th, 2009, 08:51 PM	#4
Bradley Ouellette Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada Posts: 78	What are you're render settings for the video? Make sure they stay the same when they are exported to the adobe media encoder thing. First time i did it, for some reason it changed them on me. __________________ University of Windsor student. Trying to find funds for gear...

April 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM	#3
Patrick Surace New Boot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 9	Nope, proud owner Adobe CS4 Master Collection...I have a 5D II also, can't use it without CS4, and I don't use Canons apps.

April 14th, 2009, 09:25 AM	#5
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	One possibility is a bug in encoder, in which (for quicktime, not sure about others) it does not pick up the bitrate you set in Premiere output, and defaults to 1000 kbps; HDV needs 25000, so people have been scratching their heads about low-quality .mov output ...you have to re-set the bitrate in encoder before you output...afaik this affects any output mode in which the bitrate is selectable in Premiere. They did not fix this in the .2 update, I made a point of it with Adobe support and they say they know about the problem. Knowing and fixing are two different things, apparently...../ Battle Vaughan /miamiherald.com video team

April 14th, 2009, 12:23 PM	#6
Patrick Surace New Boot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 9	Well....thanks for the help so far. Yes I noticed that media encoder does whatever it likes anyways. I always double check. While we're on that anyone ever figure out how to get media encoder to use the "work area bar"? If i have a sequence with 10 clips in it, and i set the work area bar to lets say, the 6th clip...it will start it from the beginning of the 6th clip as requested, but instead of ending at the end of that clip it sets the bar to the end of the sequence. Even if i reifix it back in media encoder it outputs the remainder of the sequence. My only solution for this is to put the clip i want to render into it's own sequence and render that out as a full sequence, very odd. Back to the original point of this post...oddly enough this must be a Premiere problem, the jpg supplied above is only that bad IN premiere...rendered frames in After Effects are much nicer. SO odd. one last thing....rendering anything compresed QT out of after effects amkes my movies have a milky overlay...really gross, any solutions there? -Patrick