Canon XH A1 scene split problem at DVinfo.net

Juan Parmenides · February 7th, 2009, 04:38 PM

Hi all,

I use my Canon HV30 native files with Sony Vegas Video 8.0 c with no problems with automatic scene splinting, but with my Canon XH A1 it does not work, and all I get is a long m2t file. I don´t really know what is happening here or if there is any issue in this sense.

Any help from you would be very welcomed.

Thanks in advance.

Chris Soucy · February 7th, 2009, 06:11 PM

Dive into your A1 menu and go to [Signal Setup].

Select the [Time Code] submenu, then [Count-Up].

What is it set for?

Vegas uses Time Code breaks to detect scene changes.

From my reading of the A1 manual, a setting of [Rec Run} only runs the time code clock when the camera is actually recording. This seems to infer that doing a Rec - Stop - Rec sequence doesn't force a time code break, as if recording stops, so does the time code clock.

Thus, by inference, to force a time code break you need a setting of [Free Run].

A subsequent Rec - Stop - Rec operation will create a distinct time code break, as the clock will have been running during the "Stop".

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

CS

Richard Hunter · February 7th, 2009, 07:21 PM

Scene change detection is based on time of day, not timecode. If the camera's date/time is not set properly, that could cause a problem with the scene detection.

Richard

Bill Busby · February 7th, 2009, 08:37 PM

I think Chris has lost it. :D Listen to Richard

Juan Parmenides · February 8th, 2009, 07:44 AM

Wow, wonderful people, thanks. I ´ve never set the date (mea culpa) in the XH A1. Once I have done this, the scene split issue is fixed.
And.... is it worthwhile to spend HD tapes if I use a tape only once? I have made a test comparing two tapes , a normal vs an HD tape, and the quality, at least for me is the same.
I have used a Samung LCD TV full HD 1080 and I have not seen any difference.

Thanks again.

February 7th, 2009, 04:38 PM	#1
Juan Parmenides Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canary Islands Posts: 54	Canon XH A1 scene split problem Hi all, I use my Canon HV30 native files with Sony Vegas Video 8.0 c with no problems with automatic scene splinting, but with my Canon XH A1 it does not work, and all I get is a long m2t file. I don´t really know what is happening here or if there is any issue in this sense. Any help from you would be very welcomed. Thanks in advance. __________________ Canon XH A1; Canon HV30; Nikon D300; Nikon D200; Sony Vegas Pro http://www.juanparmenides.com

February 7th, 2009, 06:11 PM	#2
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,689 Images: 18	Hi Juan.............. Dive into your A1 menu and go to [Signal Setup]. Select the [Time Code] submenu, then [Count-Up]. What is it set for? Vegas uses Time Code breaks to detect scene changes. From my reading of the A1 manual, a setting of [Rec Run} only runs the time code clock when the camera is actually recording. This seems to infer that doing a Rec - Stop - Rec sequence doesn't force a time code break, as if recording stops, so does the time code clock. Thus, by inference, to force a time code break you need a setting of [Free Run]. A subsequent Rec - Stop - Rec operation will create a distinct time code break, as the clock will have been running during the "Stop". That's my story and I'm sticking to it. CS Last edited by Chris Soucy; February 7th, 2009 at 06:12 PM. Reason: Whoops.

February 7th, 2009, 08:37 PM	#4
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	I think Chris has lost it. :D Listen to Richard Last edited by Bill Busby; February 7th, 2009 at 09:50 PM.

February 8th, 2009, 07:44 AM	#5
Juan Parmenides Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canary Islands Posts: 54	Wow, wonderful people, thanks. I ´ve never set the date (mea culpa) in the XH A1. Once I have done this, the scene split issue is fixed. And.... is it worthwhile to spend HD tapes if I use a tape only once? I have made a test comparing two tapes , a normal vs an HD tape, and the quality, at least for me is the same. I have used a Samung LCD TV full HD 1080 and I have not seen any difference. Thanks again. __________________ Canon XH A1; Canon HV30; Nikon D300; Nikon D200; Sony Vegas Pro http://www.juanparmenides.com

February 7th, 2009, 07:21 PM	#3
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Scene change detection is based on time of day, not timecode. If the camera's date/time is not set properly, that could cause a problem with the scene detection. Richard