Canon upgrades

Wolfgang Winne · November 5th, 2008, 02:46 AM

Canon XH A1S + XH G1S see picture.... and news in german:
VIDEOAKTIV - Neue S-Klasse: Canon XH A1S und XH G1S in HDV

John Estcourt · November 5th, 2008, 03:04 AM

The best upgrade is the ability to focus and zoom at the same time.
Anyone want to buy two canon xha1's ? haha

Michael Wisniewski · November 5th, 2008, 03:32 AM

Yeah, I'm also happy to see what looks like more robust ports: a 6-pin firewire port and a metal headphone jack? And the two component outs looks nice. Seems they fixed the line in / mic in issue too. I hope there is now an option to assign the image stabilizer to a button.

Noa Put · November 5th, 2008, 03:49 AM

Don't see any reason to sell mine yet, beside the fact that the "improved" xh-a1 is 1000 euro more expensive I don't see that many changes that would justify paying this extra cash for it.

From what I can read beside the focus/zoom combo thing a noise reduction filter might be interesting if this would help when filming in darker areas.

I don't have my xh-a1 that long but untill now I haven't found an easy way to turn off/on the OIS, in the poll that I found here it seems a missing feature and that is by far the only improvement Canon should have made for me. Not so sure if they did this now with the new version but it should be possible to do this in a firmware update and link it to a custom key? If they didn't make this change it's proof that canon doesn't listen to their clients.

Jan Luethje · November 5th, 2008, 04:24 AM

It seems, that they also use more solid screws for the ext. mic holder now. It would be interesting to know, if some of the new 'internal features' may be transferred to the 'old' A1 by a firmware update.

Janssen Herr · November 5th, 2008, 04:34 AM

The XH A1s:

Canon XH A1s HD Camcorder - Canon UK

The XH G1s:

Canon XH G1s HD Camcorder - Canon UK

Colin Zhang · November 5th, 2008, 04:50 AM

This is what everyone's been waiting for :D
looks like Canon's sticking to CCDs

Tom Hardwick · November 5th, 2008, 05:45 AM

A stop-gap model while they prepare the CMOS version? Sony did the same sort of thing going from the PD150 to the 170.

Chris Hurd · November 5th, 2008, 06:09 AM

One of the best feature set upgrades:

Canon CPS Video Support
Canon’s exclusive CPS Video Support offers users
a priority repair service and email and phone support
from a dedicated team.

Looks like many of the improvements (in audio, etc.)
are borrowed directly from the recent XL H1S / H1A.

Look for the Canon USA press releases later this morning.

Re: the two component output terminals... the lower one
is the standard one for SD / HD video output. The upper
one is an extra EVF output.

Richard Gooderick · November 5th, 2008, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noa Put

I don't have my xh-a1 that long but untill now I haven't found an easy way to turn off/on the OIS, in the poll that I found here it seems a missing feature and that is by far the only improvement Canon should have made for me.

Agreed. And push autofocus via a lanc controller would be nice too. I wonder if the new models offer these functions?

Prashanna Jayaseelan · November 5th, 2008, 10:08 AM

This is exactly what Canon reps told me, we should be looking out for more info throughout Christmas and expect to see at the next CES show.

Tom Hardwick · November 5th, 2008, 10:32 AM

C'mon Canon. A proper sharp-edged, masked (shadowed) aspect ratio hood is what's needed. Barn door lens cap if you must, but the current hood just doesn't look a patch alongside Sony's far more expensive one. And with focal lengths so short, money put here is money well spent.

tom.

Mark Labriola · November 5th, 2008, 10:57 AM

What do you think support for FS-CV DTE Recorder will be? Don't all cameras support this??

Evan C. King · November 5th, 2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noa Put

Don't see any reason to sell mine yet, beside the fact that the "improved" xh-a1 is 1000 euro more expensive I don't see that many changes that would justify paying this extra cash for it.

From what I can read beside the focus/zoom combo thing a noise reduction filter might be interesting if this would help when filming in darker areas.

I don't have my xh-a1 that long but untill now I haven't found an easy way to turn off/on the OIS, in the poll that I found here it seems a missing feature and that is by far the only improvement Canon should have made for me. Not so sure if they did this now with the new version but it should be possible to do this in a firmware update and link it to a custom key? If they didn't make this change it's proof that canon doesn't listen to their clients.

It's not supposed to make you sell yours, it's for people looking to add a second one to their roster or incentive for people who haven't got one yet.

That said I would have liked to see HDMI and an optional CF card reader, I told canon that like half a year ago, but what can you do.

However I'm almost positive late '09 shipping possibly in '10 we'll see solid state upgrades. Obviously expect a solid state upgrade to the XL series before then, maybe a prototype at NAB.

Evan C. King · November 5th, 2008, 12:22 PM

Here's the American press releases and product pages:

About Canon: Press Room > Press Release

Professional Camcorders - High Definition Camcorders and Lenses - Standard Definition Camcorders - Software - High Definition Camcorder - XH A1S - Canon USA Consumer Products

Canon Professional Camcorders

November 5th, 2008, 02:46 AM	#1
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November 5th, 2008, 06:09 AM	#9
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	One of the best feature set upgrades: Canon CPS Video Support Canon’s exclusive CPS Video Support offers users a priority repair service and email and phone support from a dedicated team. Looks like many of the improvements (in audio, etc.) are borrowed directly from the recent XL H1S / H1A. Look for the Canon USA press releases later this morning. Re: the two component output terminals... the lower one is the standard one for SD / HD video output. The upper one is an extra EVF output. Attached Thumbnails __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

November 5th, 2008, 10:08 AM	#11
Prashanna Jayaseelan Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 100	This is exactly what Canon reps told me, we should be looking out for more info throughout Christmas and expect to see at the next CES show. __________________ Prashanna http://p-yourvision.com

November 5th, 2008, 03:04 AM	#2
John Estcourt Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland, Ayr www.amour weddingvideos.co.uk Posts: 305	The best upgrade is the ability to focus and zoom at the same time. Anyone want to buy two canon xha1's ? haha

November 5th, 2008, 03:49 AM	#4
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,510	Don't see any reason to sell mine yet, beside the fact that the "improved" xh-a1 is 1000 euro more expensive I don't see that many changes that would justify paying this extra cash for it. From what I can read beside the focus/zoom combo thing a noise reduction filter might be interesting if this would help when filming in darker areas. I don't have my xh-a1 that long but untill now I haven't found an easy way to turn off/on the OIS, in the poll that I found here it seems a missing feature and that is by far the only improvement Canon should have made for me. Not so sure if they did this now with the new version but it should be possible to do this in a firmware update and link it to a custom key? If they didn't make this change it's proof that canon doesn't listen to their clients.

November 5th, 2008, 04:24 AM	#5
Jan Luethje Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 89	It seems, that they also use more solid screws for the ext. mic holder now. It would be interesting to know, if some of the new 'internal features' may be transferred to the 'old' A1 by a firmware update.

November 5th, 2008, 04:50 AM	#7
Colin Zhang Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: beijing/mississauga Posts: 123	This is what everyone's been waiting for :D looks like Canon's sticking to CCDs

November 5th, 2008, 05:45 AM	#8
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	A stop-gap model while they prepare the CMOS version? Sony did the same sort of thing going from the PD150 to the 170.

November 5th, 2008, 10:32 AM	#12
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	C'mon Canon. A proper sharp-edged, masked (shadowed) aspect ratio hood is what's needed. Barn door lens cap if you must, but the current hood just doesn't look a patch alongside Sony's far more expensive one. And with focal lengths so short, money put here is money well spent. tom.

November 5th, 2008, 10:57 AM	#13
Mark Labriola Tourist Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2	Optional Hard Disk Drive Recording? What do you think support for FS-CV DTE Recorder will be? Don't all cameras support this?? Last edited by Mark Labriola; November 5th, 2008 at 11:25 AM. Reason: Nube mistake

November 5th, 2008, 12:22 PM	#15
Evan C. King Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 532	Here's the American press releases and product pages: About Canon: Press Room > Press Release Professional Camcorders - High Definition Camcorders and Lenses - Standard Definition Camcorders - Software - High Definition Camcorder - XH A1S - Canon USA Consumer Products Canon Professional Camcorders