XH-A1 shotgun mic holder at DVinfo.net

Guy Shaddock · June 4th, 2008, 10:10 PM

I've read a few other complaints about the flimsy mic holder on the XH-A1 but it doesn't even hold my ME66...what with that? I mean gaffers tape is good for a lot of things but has anyone found a better solution?

Chris Hurd · June 4th, 2008, 10:35 PM

Moved from Canon XL to Canon XH.

Just be happy that it's too big for the ME66 instead of too small. Wrap some velcro around the mic's tube to increase its diameter so as to make it fit better in the mic clamp.

Petri Kaipiainen · June 4th, 2008, 11:55 PM

Garden hose split open makes also a good filler... Looks Pro, too!

Chris Soucy · June 5th, 2008, 12:32 AM

If you want to do it properly, AND have infinately better isolation, AND away from the lens if using a big furry muff, AND back off the lens plane, AND tiltable, then this is a pretty good option: -

http://www.rycote.com/products/softi...nt/softie_cca/

I use it almost permanently with my ME67

Doesn't get much better than this.

CS

Jeremiah Rickert · June 5th, 2008, 01:37 AM

Sony actually makes a rubber ring that fits perfectly around my ME67 on my XHA1.

Here's a picture of the item and the part number is visible so you can get it from the sony parts site.

It's the one on the right hand side.

http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s...derwspacer.jpg

JR

Matt Bishop · June 5th, 2008, 07:22 AM

The sony part just mentioned is a good option. I actually went to a guitar store and bought a guitar wall hanger. Most of these come with two rubber rings that hold the guitar and keep it from falling off. Take them off and the rubber rings fit perfectly over any mic and hold very well in the mic clip. 10 bucks got me 2 rings

Guy Shaddock · June 5th, 2008, 11:06 PM

For the short term I'm going to use either the velcro or garden hose idea. That mount for the shotgun will be what I eventually get though.
Thanks guys for your help.

Petri Kaipiainen · June 6th, 2008, 12:23 AM

If you can find a shop selling tecnical rubber and plastic products they will have silicone O-rings of all possible sizes and they are quite cheap. Just take the mic with you to check the fit and buy a dozen. You would need 2-3 of them at a time. Gives better isolation than the emergency garden hose fix.

Jerome Marot · June 6th, 2008, 02:47 PM

If you try to use mics as long as the ME66 in the holder of the A1, you risk seeing them in the frame. For this kind of use a J-rod (http://www.thej-rod.com/) is a good idea.

(I made one myself, BTW. It is pretty easy, look at the attached pictures.)

Tripp Woelfel · June 6th, 2008, 07:23 PM

If you like the position of your mic in the holder, the easiest way to use up the extra space is to loop the extra mic cable through the holder before you place the mic in. I use a Rode and it works perfectly.

I wish I could claim the idea as my own, but I read it somewhere when I got the A1 last fall. Probably read it here.

Bruce Kurz · June 7th, 2008, 07:29 PM

Ok this is perfect. I used o-rings from home depot (5 of them) for my Canon Xh-A1 and it has been working great. I just purchased the sleeve for the sony Part number 317988201 from http://www.partstore.com/Default.aspx this is going to work even better. Thank you all for the picture and part number of the sleeve or spacer as they call it. I will be putting it to use on my Canon.

Philip Younger · June 9th, 2008, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Soucy

If you want to do it properly, AND have infinately better isolation, AND away from the lens if using a big furry muff, AND back off the lens plane, AND tiltable, then this is a pretty good option: -

http://www.rycote.com/products/softi...nt/softie_cca/

I use it almost permanently with my ME67

Doesn't get much better than this.

CS

That looks a great solution until you discover the cost £139.00 + postage :-(

Guy Shaddock · June 9th, 2008, 01:54 PM

Hey Tripp
Great idea..looping the cable through the mic holder. Works great! Sometimes the simpliest things! I have to watch my sennheisers muff though, sometimes under wide angle a few hairs show up at the top of the screen. I had this happen on my DVC 80 once and lost some valuable footage.

Jeff Rhode · June 9th, 2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerome Marot

If you try to use mics as long as the ME66 in the holder of the A1, you risk seeing them in the frame. For this kind of use a J-rod (http://www.thej-rod.com/) is a good idea.

(I made one myself, BTW. It is pretty easy, look at the attached pictures.)

Nice Jerome !
I guess imitation is the best form of flattery.

Jerome Marot · June 10th, 2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Rhode

Nice Jerome !
I guess imitation is the best form of flattery.

(blush)

My only excuse is that I live in Germany and that the J-Rod was not easily available where I live (to my knowledge at the time). But I have to admit that your idea is pretty good!

June 4th, 2008, 10:10 PM	#1
Guy Shaddock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 131	XH-A1 shotgun mic holder I've read a few other complaints about the flimsy mic holder on the XH-A1 but it doesn't even hold my ME66...what with that? I mean gaffers tape is good for a lot of things but has anyone found a better solution?

June 4th, 2008, 10:35 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Moved from Canon XL to Canon XH. Just be happy that it's too big for the ME66 instead of too small. Wrap some velcro around the mic's tube to increase its diameter so as to make it fit better in the mic clamp. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 5th, 2008, 12:32 AM	#4
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,688 Images: 18	Hi Guy........... If you want to do it properly, AND have infinately better isolation, AND away from the lens if using a big furry muff, AND back off the lens plane, AND tiltable, then this is a pretty good option: - http://www.rycote.com/products/softi...nt/softie_cca/ I use it almost permanently with my ME67 Doesn't get much better than this. CS

June 5th, 2008, 07:22 AM	#6
Matt Bishop Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Moline, IL Posts: 231	The sony part just mentioned is a good option. I actually went to a guitar store and bought a guitar wall hanger. Most of these come with two rubber rings that hold the guitar and keep it from falling off. Take them off and the rubber rings fit perfectly over any mic and hold very well in the mic clip. 10 bucks got me 2 rings __________________ www.mediainnovations-online.com www.mediainnovationsblog.com

June 5th, 2008, 11:06 PM	#7
Guy Shaddock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 131	Great suggestions For the short term I'm going to use either the velcro or garden hose idea. That mount for the shotgun will be what I eventually get though. Thanks guys for your help.

June 4th, 2008, 11:55 PM	#3
Petri Kaipiainen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Espoo Finland Posts: 380	Garden hose split open makes also a good filler... Looks Pro, too!

June 5th, 2008, 01:37 AM	#5
Jeremiah Rickert Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newberg, Oregon Posts: 494	Sony actually makes a rubber ring that fits perfectly around my ME67 on my XHA1. Here's a picture of the item and the part number is visible so you can get it from the sony parts site. It's the one on the right hand side. http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s...derwspacer.jpg JR

June 6th, 2008, 12:23 AM	#8
Petri Kaipiainen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Espoo Finland Posts: 380	If you can find a shop selling tecnical rubber and plastic products they will have silicone O-rings of all possible sizes and they are quite cheap. Just take the mic with you to check the fit and buy a dozen. You would need 2-3 of them at a time. Gives better isolation than the emergency garden hose fix.

June 6th, 2008, 02:47 PM	#9
Jerome Marot Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Munich (Germany) Posts: 107 Images: 4	If you try to use mics as long as the ME66 in the holder of the A1, you risk seeing them in the frame. For this kind of use a J-rod (http://www.thej-rod.com/) is a good idea. (I made one myself, BTW. It is pretty easy, look at the attached pictures.) Attached Thumbnails

June 6th, 2008, 07:23 PM	#10
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Wanna save some $ and carry less gear? If you like the position of your mic in the holder, the easiest way to use up the extra space is to loop the extra mic cable through the holder before you place the mic in. I use a Rode and it works perfectly. I wish I could claim the idea as my own, but I read it somewhere when I got the A1 last fall. Probably read it here.

June 7th, 2008, 07:29 PM	#11
Bruce Kurz New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 8	Thanks this is great Ok this is perfect. I used o-rings from home depot (5 of them) for my Canon Xh-A1 and it has been working great. I just purchased the sleeve for the sony Part number 317988201 from http://www.partstore.com/Default.aspx this is going to work even better. Thank you all for the picture and part number of the sleeve or spacer as they call it. I will be putting it to use on my Canon.

June 9th, 2008, 01:54 PM	#13
Guy Shaddock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 131	Hey Tripp Great idea..looping the cable through the mic holder. Works great! Sometimes the simpliest things! I have to watch my sennheisers muff though, sometimes under wide angle a few hairs show up at the top of the screen. I had this happen on my DVC 80 once and lost some valuable footage.