Audio Dials at DVinfo.net

John Griffin · May 18th, 2008, 10:39 AM

OK did a search for this and nothing found. I just opened all my external mics today and was playing with the audio level and noticed that the dials were responding opposite of how they are marked. So went through custom settings and theres nothing for reverse of audio dials. I take it i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower. Thanks for any help clearing this up.

John

Bill Pryor · May 18th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Yes, the audio dials are counterintuitive. Down is up. Up is down. George Orwell would have liked the audio dials on the XH A1.

Colin McDonald · May 18th, 2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John Griffin

OK did a search for this and nothing found. I just opened all my external mics today and was playing with the audio level and noticed that the dials were responding opposite of how they are marked. So went through custom settings and theres nothing for reverse of audio dials. I take it i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower. Thanks for any help clearing this up.

John

Daft, isn't it? I've just about got used to it now.

I started a thread on this previously:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=112673

Bill Busby · May 18th, 2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by John Griffin

I take it i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower.

Now wait a sec! Am I reading you right? Are you certain? If so, that's how I think we would ALL expect them to work... clockwise=louder, counterclockwise=lower. Forget the markings, forget the dials are mounted vertically & not horizontally... in fact, even if there weren't any of those silly markings, I would have expected them to work as I mentioned above when I first got my hands on the A1. And to this day at times I still will accidentally do this until I realize I'm not in CanonBackwardThinking mode... then go DOH! I forgot! Geesh!

Please clarify.

Deke Ryland · May 18th, 2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by John Griffin

i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower. Thanks for any help clearing this up.

WHAT!?!?! I have an A1 and if I adjust the audio and move the marker towards the larger white circles, the gain is INCREASED... just as you would expect. I don't know why your's is reversed???

Bill Busby · May 18th, 2008, 06:45 PM

Exactly! That's why I'm waiting for clarification, because if his works this way... I want MINE to work that way (the right way:)... & I wonder, if in fact, his IS working that way, what the firmware version is. Maybe (well hopefully) we're on to something. It's always been one of my top 5 gripes about the A1.

John Griffin · May 18th, 2008, 07:24 PM

I understand the comment on the clockwise=louder, counter-clockwise=lower. But mine is the exact opposite, clockwise=lower, counter-clockwise=louder. If this a firmware issue, is it downloadable?

John

Bill Busby · May 18th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Yikes! John, this contradicts your original post. You said as the indicator nears the larger dots, it gets lower & vice versa.

So... NOW my question is... look at these dots from the side of your camera & please tell me... aren't the larger dots on the bottom & the smaller ones on the top?

John Griffin · May 18th, 2008, 07:40 PM

Yes the small dots are to the top and bigger dots to the bottom.

John

Bill Busby · May 18th, 2008, 07:47 PM

Then your original post must be just a wrong play on words or something. You must have been thinking of how the direction of your thumb, for instance is, is moving instead of where the white arrow indicator is pointing.

Your camera is operating the way it was designed, no matter how "wrong" it is :)

Damn, I got all excited about the possibility of a firmware bit for nuttin :-\

John Griffin · May 18th, 2008, 07:55 PM

Sorry!!!! Should have said where the white triangles on rear of the camera get wider or narrower.

Luc De Wandel · May 22nd, 2008, 03:16 PM

But... it stays counter-intuïtive. For men, that is. This camera is a ladies toy: the potmeters on my wifes gas cooker (and on all gas cookers in Europe, I don't know about the States) turn counterclockwise for more heat. Guess we'll have to adress our other brain half for the sound dials.

Bill Pryor · May 23rd, 2008, 09:55 AM

Our gas stove in the U.S. turns counterclockwise for LESS heat, but the electric one we replaced was the opposite.

Bill Watson · May 23rd, 2008, 03:31 PM

I've never seen the audio dial thing as an issue as I look at the LED readout.

Looking at it now, though, I still can't see what the problem is. The dial markings are as they should be.

Anyway, works for me.

Luc De Wandel · May 24th, 2008, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pryor

Our gas stove in the U.S. turns counterclockwise for LESS heat, but the electric one we replaced was the opposite.

Hurray for simplification and standardisation!

May 18th, 2008, 10:39 AM	#1
John Griffin Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Woodlawn Ill Posts: 61	Audio Dials OK did a search for this and nothing found. I just opened all my external mics today and was playing with the audio level and noticed that the dials were responding opposite of how they are marked. So went through custom settings and theres nothing for reverse of audio dials. I take it i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower. Thanks for any help clearing this up. John

May 18th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#7
John Griffin Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Woodlawn Ill Posts: 61	Audio Dials I understand the comment on the clockwise=louder, counter-clockwise=lower. But mine is the exact opposite, clockwise=lower, counter-clockwise=louder. If this a firmware issue, is it downloadable? John

May 18th, 2008, 07:40 PM	#9
John Griffin Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Woodlawn Ill Posts: 61	Audio Dials Yes the small dots are to the top and bigger dots to the bottom. John

May 18th, 2008, 07:55 PM	#11
John Griffin Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Woodlawn Ill Posts: 61	Dials Sorry!!!! Should have said where the white triangles on rear of the camera get wider or narrower.

May 18th, 2008, 11:41 AM	#2
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Yes, the audio dials are counterintuitive. Down is up. Up is down. George Orwell would have liked the audio dials on the XH A1.

May 18th, 2008, 06:45 PM	#6
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	Exactly! That's why I'm waiting for clarification, because if his works this way... I want MINE to work that way (the right way:)... & I wonder, if in fact, his IS working that way, what the firmware version is. Maybe (well hopefully) we're on to something. It's always been one of my top 5 gripes about the A1.

May 18th, 2008, 07:36 PM	#8
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	Yikes! John, this contradicts your original post. You said as the indicator nears the larger dots, it gets lower & vice versa. So... NOW my question is... look at these dots from the side of your camera & please tell me... aren't the larger dots on the bottom & the smaller ones on the top?

May 18th, 2008, 07:47 PM	#10
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	Then your original post must be just a wrong play on words or something. You must have been thinking of how the direction of your thumb, for instance is, is moving instead of where the white arrow indicator is pointing. Your camera is operating the way it was designed, no matter how "wrong" it is :) Damn, I got all excited about the possibility of a firmware bit for nuttin :-\

May 22nd, 2008, 03:16 PM	#12
Luc De Wandel Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Knokke-Heist, Belgium Posts: 963	But... it stays counter-intuïtive. For men, that is. This camera is a ladies toy: the potmeters on my wifes gas cooker (and on all gas cookers in Europe, I don't know about the States) turn counterclockwise for more heat. Guess we'll have to adress our other brain half for the sound dials.

May 23rd, 2008, 09:55 AM	#13
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Our gas stove in the U.S. turns counterclockwise for LESS heat, but the electric one we replaced was the opposite.

May 23rd, 2008, 03:31 PM	#14
Bill Watson Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Noosa Queensland Australia Posts: 248	I've never seen the audio dial thing as an issue as I look at the LED readout. Looking at it now, though, I still can't see what the problem is. The dial markings are as they should be. Anyway, works for me.