General purpose stereo mic for the A1 at DVinfo.net

Taky Cheung · May 6th, 2008, 10:40 PM

I have tried SMX-10, not so impress. Anybody has any recommendation for a general purpose stereo mic (3.5mm plug or XLR) less than $200?

I like Rode StereoMic. But I want something I can mount in A1's mic holder.

Colin McDonald · May 7th, 2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Taky Cheung

I like Rode StereoMic. But I want something I can mount in A1's mic holder.

Why, Taky? Do you like the sound of servos and the click and creak of switches and buttons being operated as part of your audio? :-)

Taky Cheung · May 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM

I do not have any of the issue you mentioned with my Rode stereo Mic. I guess it depends on how you mount it and how you use it.

Steve Wolla · May 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM

I think the AT822 or 825 (same as 822 but w/XLR connect) is a good choice. The 822 sounds very nice, and goes for about $250.

Allan Black · May 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM

Taky, I use the RODE Stereo Videomic with my A1. The advantages are, it fits in the A1 shoe nicely, some don't...and plugs in easily too.

On its own shock mount it sits up there out of the way of any cam body sound reflections and has an easily reachable 10db switch for a quick drop or increase in level if you suddenly need it. Comes with a deadcat, I use it around airfields a lot. And the RSVM has such a sweet sound, I love it.

My next preference is my cheaper AT822, also a good sound, but it needs an additional shock mount.
Cheers.

Colin McDonald · May 7th, 2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Taky Cheung

I do not have any of the issue you mentioned with my Rode stereo Mic. I guess it depends on how you mount it and how you use it.

Exactly my point. The Rode has a built in shock mount, I believe. I use a mono micRode (NTG-2) and it has to have the shockmount otherwise I get a lot of unwanted noise.

BTW Taky, the HV30 batteries are doing just great - with two I can keep going all day.

Taky Cheung · May 8th, 2008, 01:36 AM

Colin, that's great you got the batteries okay. I am using those batteries too! To shoot an evening banquet, I don't have to worry about if the battery running dry :)

Don Palomaki · May 10th, 2008, 04:43 AM

I use the AT-825 and like it, but usually with a separate recorder, e.g., MicroTrack 24/96

You could also checkout the Sony ECM-MS957 as moderate cost mic in the $200 price range.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10151

Shahryar Rizvi · May 10th, 2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Wolla

I think the AT822 or 825 (same as 822 but w/XLR connect) is a good choice. The 822 sounds very nice, and goes for about $250.

Over at the minidisc.org forum, I got this same advice in this thread over here:
http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php...9&#entry120639

I still haven't made my purchase yet, but when I do finally make the jump to the Canon XH-A1 (I currently have a Sony HC1), then I definitely plan to finally get this mic.

Jeff Rhode · May 11th, 2008, 04:42 PM

Taky,

If you are still looking for a way to mount the Rode mic (or any other shock mount) on your A1 please take a look at The J-Rod--It will allow you to mount the mic you want, as well as a radio receiver on the A1. Your top cold shoe will also be left open for the use of a video light or Firestore. www.thej-rod.com

Lou Bruno · May 11th, 2008, 06:12 PM

The RODE SM-5 works perfectly for me.

Shahryar Rizvi · September 16th, 2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Allan Black

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My next preference is my cheaper AT822, also a good sound, but it needs an additional shock mount.
Cheers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Wolla

I think the AT822 or 825 (same as 822 but w/XLR connect) is a good choice. The 822 sounds very nice, and goes for about $250.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Palomaki

I use the AT-825 and like it, but usually with a separate recorder, e.g., MicroTrack 24/96
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I posted earlier in this thread that I had received a lot of recommendations to get the AT-822 to use with my Sony MZ-RH1 Hi-MD Minidisc to record sound. With my XH-A1 arriving in the mail today, I was hoping to hurry up and grab the mic.

I saw that you both had suggested and use the AT-822 & the AT-825. I was wondering which of the two I should get if I would like to use both with my XH-A1 and my Sony MZ-RH1 Hi-MD? Also, what accessories should I get to use with my XH-A1? (also, I plan to use this with a boom pole so I was also wondering what I should get for that, but I think that's outside the scope of this thread).

Allan Black · September 16th, 2008, 03:08 PM

For use with both the A1 and the Hi-MD get the AT822, it's AA battery powered and comes with an XLR to 3.5mm stereo jack cable which will fit both rigs. The AT825 needs 48volts.

There are other options but I got the RODE SM4 shockmount which fits booms and a 3/8" to shoe mount adaptor to fit the A1.

Cheers.

Shahryar Rizvi · September 16th, 2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Allan Black

For use with both the A1 and the Hi-MD get the AT822, it's AA battery powered and comes with an XLR to 3.5mm stereo jack cable which will fit both rigs. The AT825 needs 48volts.

There are other options but I got the RODE SM4 shockmount which fits booms and a 3/8" to shoe mount adaptor to fit the A1.

Cheers.

ah thats good news that you say to get the AT-822 for my needs instead of the AT-825 because I found a used AT-822 on Amazon. Is there anything I'm sacrificing by not getting an AT-825?I know that it costs more.

Thanks for the info on the shockmount too. The SM4 is $49 so that's not bad. I saw some people using the Rycote one over on this Boom pole thread: BOOM poles.... a low level perspective - Page 3 - The Digital Video Information Network. Thats not too bad either at $69 or $79 I believe. I actually JUST bought my XH-A1 used from a member of dvinfo.net (it arrived today actually) and he also has a K-Tek 110CC boom pole he's trying to sell which I'm considering getting (I was eying the Rode Boompole as my other option but the price difference between a new Rode Boompole - $149 - isn't too much lower than his price on the used K-tek boom pole so I think I'm leaning towards getting the better K-tek onr). This seller also has a K-tek GPS shockmount, and as nice it would be to buy both things I need in one shot, those retail new on B&H Photo for $155 which is pretty steep. Even if the seller gave me a good price on his used one, it would probably still be pretty far from the SM4 or Rycote's price.

Last question - you said you use a " 3/8" to shoe mount adaptor to fit the A1." Is that sold from b&h photo also? Do you have a specific link? I tried searching around but couldn't quite find it.

Allan Black · September 17th, 2008, 12:33 AM

The 822 has the 3pin XLR to stereo 3.5mm minijack and not the 5pin XLRF type stereo output connector that the 825 has. Audio wise they're very close, I doubt you could tell them apart even in a a pro recording studio. Slightly better figures on the 825. BTW it also has an AA battery option.

Boom poles; each to his own but for prosumer work, my take is get a middle price carbon fibre one, there's nothing worse than underspecing gear, in a lot of instances you buy twice.

I couldn't find that B&H page for that shoe adaptor now either, but it's there somewhere, under camera brackets I thought.

A good tip is, before you buy any gear, look up the owners manual on the web.

Cheers.

May 6th, 2008, 10:40 PM	#1
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	General purpose stereo mic for the A1 I have tried SMX-10, not so impress. Anybody has any recommendation for a general purpose stereo mic (3.5mm plug or XLR) less than $200? I like Rode StereoMic. But I want something I can mount in A1's mic holder. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

May 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#3
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	I do not have any of the issue you mentioned with my Rode stereo Mic. I guess it depends on how you mount it and how you use it. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

May 8th, 2008, 01:36 AM	#7
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Colin, that's great you got the batteries okay. I am using those batteries too! To shoot an evening banquet, I don't have to worry about if the battery running dry :) __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

May 10th, 2008, 04:43 AM	#8
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	I use the AT-825 and like it, but usually with a separate recorder, e.g., MicroTrack 24/96 You could also checkout the Sony ECM-MS957 as moderate cost mic in the $200 price range. http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...&storeId=10151 __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

May 11th, 2008, 06:12 PM	#11
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	The RODE SM-5 works perfectly for me. __________________ Lou Bruno

May 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#4
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	I think the AT822 or 825 (same as 822 but w/XLR connect) is a good choice. The 822 sounds very nice, and goes for about $250.

May 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#5
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,928	Taky, I use the RODE Stereo Videomic with my A1. The advantages are, it fits in the A1 shoe nicely, some don't...and plugs in easily too. On its own shock mount it sits up there out of the way of any cam body sound reflections and has an easily reachable 10db switch for a quick drop or increase in level if you suddenly need it. Comes with a deadcat, I use it around airfields a lot. And the RSVM has such a sweet sound, I love it. My next preference is my cheaper AT822, also a good sound, but it needs an additional shock mount. Cheers.

May 11th, 2008, 04:42 PM	#10
Jeff Rhode Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 169	Taky, If you are still looking for a way to mount the Rode mic (or any other shock mount) on your A1 please take a look at The J-Rod--It will allow you to mount the mic you want, as well as a radio receiver on the A1. Your top cold shoe will also be left open for the use of a video light or Firestore. www.thej-rod.com

September 16th, 2008, 03:08 PM	#13
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,928	For use with both the A1 and the Hi-MD get the AT822, it's AA battery powered and comes with an XLR to 3.5mm stereo jack cable which will fit both rigs. The AT825 needs 48volts. There are other options but I got the RODE SM4 shockmount which fits booms and a 3/8" to shoe mount adaptor to fit the A1. Cheers. Last edited by Allan Black; September 16th, 2008 at 03:19 PM. Reason: options

September 17th, 2008, 12:33 AM	#15
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,928	The 822 has the 3pin XLR to stereo 3.5mm minijack and not the 5pin XLRF type stereo output connector that the 825 has. Audio wise they're very close, I doubt you could tell them apart even in a a pro recording studio. Slightly better figures on the 825. BTW it also has an AA battery option. Boom poles; each to his own but for prosumer work, my take is get a middle price carbon fibre one, there's nothing worse than underspecing gear, in a lot of instances you buy twice. I couldn't find that B&H page for that shoe adaptor now either, but it's there somewhere, under camera brackets I thought. A good tip is, before you buy any gear, look up the owners manual on the web. Cheers.