Rode NTG-2 too slim for A1 shotgun holder?

David Chia · February 20th, 2008, 03:25 AM

I use a simple solution. I use some left over foams from my pelican case and stuff it between the mic holder and stuff any mic in between.

Les Wilson · February 20th, 2008, 10:47 PM

I dislike the NTG-2 on the A1 because of it's length. I like the controls and handle of the camera to be clear and the NTG-2 tail end juts pretty far back. It's especially true without a right angle cable. Also, with a deadcat on it, pushing the mic too far forward results in hairs in the picture. Even with a Lightwave mount, I had to be careful to keep hairs out of frame. Given the choice, I think the NTG-1 is a better option as long as you don't need the mic in other places that lack phantom.

Lou Bruno · February 21st, 2008, 07:56 AM

I actually wrapped a small piece of VELCRO around the Mic. then placed the other half of the VELCRO in the holder. My RODE fits perfectly. My XLR cables also are right angled for a neater appearance.

Mark Rook · February 21st, 2008, 08:02 AM

I used some sticky backed black foam. I wrapped it around twice and then placed her into the holder, its not perfect but it won't come out.

Mark

Erik Nudd · February 21st, 2008, 12:18 PM

I just got my NTG-1 yesterday and dealt with the same issue of fitting in the XH-A1 mike holder. I like the ideas posted here and mine is somewhat similar. I used a sticky-backed felt pad cut down to 1" wide and long enough to make one wrap around the mike. Found it easily at the hardware store. Seems to add a little cushion too. Looks clean as well.

Erik

Carrie Cannaday · February 21st, 2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripp Woelfel

You all might be overtaking the plumbing on this. I followed someone's advice and looped the extra mike cable thru the mic holder. That way, it fits just fine. It doesn't provide any more shock mounting so your other solutions might be better, particularly the fancy shoe mounts. I've had no problems with the Rode in the camera mount with that loop of mic cable in there.

The price was right and it keeps the extra cable out of the way.

I looped the extra mic cable into the shotgun holder with the mic during a shoot today and it worked well. I liked the fact that this solution got the extra bit of mic cable out of the way and seemed to make the mic fit the shotgun holder just right.

Les Wilson · February 23rd, 2008, 07:30 AM

Another downside to the NTG (1 or 2) in the A1 holder is that deadcat shows up on screen. I had to trim mine.

Also, the Lightwave shotgun isolator from my XL1, is 26mm and a very tight fit for the A1.

Ernest Freeman · February 23rd, 2008, 11:36 AM

I performed some minor surgery on a foam grip from a Razor-scooter, giving it a paint job along with a red pin stripe and presto bingo a “Canonized”(pun intended) foamed mic mount.

Alastair Brown · February 23rd, 2008, 01:04 PM

I'm curious you guys. Is their really THAT much of a difference between he stock mics and the Rhode?

Les Wilson · February 23rd, 2008, 04:32 PM

I went to get the "O" rings and found two that might fit. Not having my equipment with me, I came home with both sizes. I found 3 of the #15 rings worked nicely as they are thicker and can be positioned to line up with the gaps in the rubber ridges of the mount.

Alastair,
I don't know if there's "that much difference" between the built-in and the Rode but the reason to use a shotgun is so you can have a second mic such as a wireless.

Ryan Postel · February 26th, 2008, 05:20 PM

Alastair,

I don't know any reason when I would consider using the A1 stock mic again. It's loud and pretty unfocused compared to the Rode. Its noticable, but then again, its all about what you're using it for.

As far as jimmy-rigging the NTG1 or 2 to fit, I think its worth it to get an O-ring because the mic picks up way too much contact noise to really consider getting good audio otherwise.

Hubert,

What do you have attached to your lens? Is that a wide angle adapter or something else?

Hubert Duijzer · February 26th, 2008, 05:32 PM

Yep, it's the WD-H72 wide angle adaptor.
Another vote for the SM-5 shockmount to keep the dead cat out of sight.

Mark Fry · February 27th, 2008, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alastair Brown

I'm curious you guys. Is their really THAT much of a difference between he stock mics and the Rhode?

The built-in mics are pretty good in terms of frequency response, but there's a bitt too much handling/motor noise. More to-the-point, they are more-or-less omni-directional, whereas the NTG1, AT897, k6/ME66 etc. are short shot-gun and so reject much more off-axis sound.

Les Wilson · March 2nd, 2008, 08:05 AM

I was in a Chinese market yesterday shooting a woman talking with a customer. I remembered this topic and switched to the internal mic just to compare. Unfortunately, the A1 doesn't have the nice internal/external switch that the XL1 series had so the scene had changed a little. I will post something here when I get back. For now, here's a still I snapped with a digicam.

Petri Kaipiainen · March 2nd, 2008, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubert Duijzer

Rode SM-5 is a cheap and good shockmount

And if you attach the SM-5 with the front part into the holder the mic moves about 10 cm back...

February 20th, 2008, 03:25 AM	#16
David Chia Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 427	I use a simple solution. I use some left over foams from my pelican case and stuff it between the mic holder and stuff any mic in between. __________________ Website: http://www.Motiononcanvas.com Camera Operator/ Video Editor in Singapore. https://new.cinematographer.org.au/m...713/david-chia

February 21st, 2008, 07:56 AM	#18
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	I actually wrapped a small piece of VELCRO around the Mic. then placed the other half of the VELCRO in the holder. My RODE fits perfectly. My XLR cables also are right angled for a neater appearance. __________________ Lou Bruno

February 23rd, 2008, 11:36 AM	#23
Ernest Freeman New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: R.S.M. Calif USA Posts: 16	I performed some minor surgery on a foam grip from a Razor-scooter, giving it a paint job along with a red pin stripe and presto bingo a “Canonized”(pun intended) foamed mic mount. Attached Thumbnails

March 2nd, 2008, 08:05 AM	#29
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	I was in a Chinese market yesterday shooting a woman talking with a customer. I remembered this topic and switched to the internal mic just to compare. Unfortunately, the A1 doesn't have the nice internal/external switch that the XL1 series had so the scene had changed a little. I will post something here when I get back. For now, here's a still I snapped with a digicam. Attached Thumbnails

February 20th, 2008, 10:47 PM	#17
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	I dislike the NTG-2 on the A1 because of it's length. I like the controls and handle of the camera to be clear and the NTG-2 tail end juts pretty far back. It's especially true without a right angle cable. Also, with a deadcat on it, pushing the mic too far forward results in hairs in the picture. Even with a Lightwave mount, I had to be careful to keep hairs out of frame. Given the choice, I think the NTG-1 is a better option as long as you don't need the mic in other places that lack phantom.

February 21st, 2008, 08:02 AM	#19
Mark Rook Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Aberystwyth, Wales, UK Posts: 91	I used some sticky backed black foam. I wrapped it around twice and then placed her into the holder, its not perfect but it won't come out. Mark

February 21st, 2008, 12:18 PM	#20
Erik Nudd Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kalaheo, Kauai, Hawaii Posts: 27	I just got my NTG-1 yesterday and dealt with the same issue of fitting in the XH-A1 mike holder. I like the ideas posted here and mine is somewhat similar. I used a sticky-backed felt pad cut down to 1" wide and long enough to make one wrap around the mike. Found it easily at the hardware store. Seems to add a little cushion too. Looks clean as well. Erik

February 23rd, 2008, 07:30 AM	#22
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Another downside to the NTG (1 or 2) in the A1 holder is that deadcat shows up on screen. I had to trim mine. Also, the Lightwave shotgun isolator from my XL1, is 26mm and a very tight fit for the A1.

February 23rd, 2008, 01:04 PM	#24
Alastair Brown Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Glasgow/Scotland Posts: 626	I'm curious you guys. Is their really THAT much of a difference between he stock mics and the Rhode?

February 23rd, 2008, 04:32 PM	#25
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	I went to get the "O" rings and found two that might fit. Not having my equipment with me, I came home with both sizes. I found 3 of the #15 rings worked nicely as they are thicker and can be positioned to line up with the gaps in the rubber ridges of the mount. Alastair, I don't know if there's "that much difference" between the built-in and the Rode but the reason to use a shotgun is so you can have a second mic such as a wireless.

February 26th, 2008, 05:20 PM	#26
Ryan Postel Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 93	Alastair, I don't know any reason when I would consider using the A1 stock mic again. It's loud and pretty unfocused compared to the Rode. Its noticable, but then again, its all about what you're using it for. As far as jimmy-rigging the NTG1 or 2 to fit, I think its worth it to get an O-ring because the mic picks up way too much contact noise to really consider getting good audio otherwise. Hubert, What do you have attached to your lens? Is that a wide angle adapter or something else?

February 26th, 2008, 05:32 PM	#27
Hubert Duijzer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 177	Yep, it's the WD-H72 wide angle adaptor. Another vote for the SM-5 shockmount to keep the dead cat out of sight.