Built-in mic seems loose?

Pete Bauer · June 2nd, 2007, 09:26 PM

It is supposed to be "loose." See also this existing thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=89691

Tom Roper · June 2nd, 2007, 11:24 PM

I was the first to note the observation about the mic.
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showpost.php?...46&postcount=4

I am so PROUD! (it's still loose though...)

David Morgan · June 9th, 2007, 09:57 AM

My on-board mic is about to pull out. Anyone know how to tighten this thing?

Ryan Flesher · June 9th, 2007, 10:03 AM

I glued mine back on.
Ryan

David Morgan · June 9th, 2007, 10:06 AM

Permanent glue like crazy glue? I wonder what Canon recommends? If you ever needed to service this thing, I suspect you'd never get it apart?

Bill Busby · June 9th, 2007, 11:49 AM

Lordy! If it just wiggles a little, this is normal. Hope you didn't fall into the glue scenario.

If it's near dangling, then a trip to service is in order
Bill

David Morgan · June 9th, 2007, 02:37 PM

Well, it does sound like I'm not the only one who is having this problem. There are, what appears to be screw holes on the bottom side but access would require a special tool or something because the lens is in the way. It's way looser than when I bought the camera. Not quite falling off yet. I'm surprized that there aren't other threads addressing this issue.

Not only that but, it's starting to ring of what my intial concerns are about these cameras. They aren't built to take much physical abuse. Too much delicate plastic. Just look at the battery compartment and the release lever.

regards
dm

Jarrod Whaley · June 9th, 2007, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Morgan

They aren't built to take much physical abuse.

So don't physically abuse your $4000 camera? ;)

Good-natured kidding aside, there are lots of other threads about this; the mic is shockmounted to reduce camera and handling noise. If the mic is in fact getting looser with time as you suggest, then you might have a legitimate problem. However, I'd suggest not worrying about it too much unless the mic actually does fall off or something. Maybe it's just "settling in" to its natural state, who knows? I suspect that you might feel the need to fix this before it fails in a critical situation, but then if you're using a built-in mic for something critical, then you've probably got bigger problems to begin with.

Take all of the above for what it's worth. I may or may not have any idea what I'm talking about. :)

David Morgan · June 9th, 2007, 07:59 PM

yep, well, I really do take care of the camera. However, I have a lot of stuff jammed into my camera case. Headphones, shotgun mic, shock mount.....the list goes on. I suspect that the mic took some unintentional upward or downward pressure. It moves at least 1/4" up and down. Definitely getting loose.

On the subject of usage, I try not to use it for a lot of reasons. However, I just recorded something outdoors and there was just enough wind to create a problem with my outboard shotgun mic with windscreen. I don't have a zepplin or deadcat etc... as I don't shoot outside very often. Had to resort to the onboard mic. Definitely not my first choice but saved my bacon.

regards
dm

Luke Burns · June 17th, 2007, 01:30 AM

I just got my XH A1 yesterday, and before I even shot with it, I noticed that the built-in mic was loose. It's now even making a noise like there is something loose inside it, I hear in the audio and when just lightly shaking the camera. I just wanted to make sure that this is what you guys are talking about. Is mine worse? Thanks.

Kathy Stannard · June 17th, 2007, 04:20 AM

Mines loose also, it's just the way they are built. I think using a small screw driver (for glasses) you'll be able to tighten the screw on it. I haven't tried yet. I don't tend to use the on board mic, unless it's purely as a guide track.

Chris Hurd · June 17th, 2007, 12:08 PM

It is SUPPOSED to be loose. We've discussed this here many times. If it's NOT loose, there's something wrong. See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....40&postcount=7 for details. Do NOT try to tighten it. It's made that way for a reason.

Don Palomaki · June 18th, 2007, 07:44 AM

Hmmm. Sounds like someone needs to create a bit of persistent video or graphic image showing the "normal" range of motion of the built-in mic. Too many folks obsessing about it, and a fair number no doubt needlessly.

Steven Taylor · July 25th, 2007, 06:12 AM

Hi,

the built in Mic on my A1 is very wobbly, I expected it to move a little for shock absorbtion.. but mine seems to rattle away from the rubber or soft element inside. Anyone had the same problem? Is there any way to adjust it?

Thanks

Steve

Chris Hurd · July 25th, 2007, 07:07 AM

Normal. Frequently asked. Merging w/several earlier threads.

June 2nd, 2007, 09:26 PM	#46
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June 9th, 2007, 09:57 AM	#48
David Morgan Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 466	XH A1 stereo mic is getting loose My on-board mic is about to pull out. Anyone know how to tighten this thing?

June 9th, 2007, 10:03 AM	#49
Ryan Flesher Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: United States Posts: 56	Mic I glued mine back on. Ryan

June 17th, 2007, 12:08 PM	#57
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	It is SUPPOSED to be loose. We've discussed this here many times. If it's NOT loose, there's something wrong. See http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....40&postcount=7 for details. Do NOT try to tighten it. It's made that way for a reason. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 18th, 2007, 07:44 AM	#58
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Hmmm. Sounds like someone needs to create a bit of persistent video or graphic image showing the "normal" range of motion of the built-in mic. Too many folks obsessing about it, and a fair number no doubt needlessly. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

June 2nd, 2007, 11:24 PM	#47
Tom Roper Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,891	I was the first to note the observation about the mic. http://dvinfo.net/conf/showpost.php?...46&postcount=4 I am so PROUD! (it's still loose though...)

June 9th, 2007, 10:06 AM	#50
David Morgan Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 466	Permanent glue like crazy glue? I wonder what Canon recommends? If you ever needed to service this thing, I suspect you'd never get it apart?

June 9th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#51
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	Lordy! If it just wiggles a little, this is normal. Hope you didn't fall into the glue scenario. If it's near dangling, then a trip to service is in order Bill

June 9th, 2007, 02:37 PM	#52
David Morgan Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 466	Well, it does sound like I'm not the only one who is having this problem. There are, what appears to be screw holes on the bottom side but access would require a special tool or something because the lens is in the way. It's way looser than when I bought the camera. Not quite falling off yet. I'm surprized that there aren't other threads addressing this issue. Not only that but, it's starting to ring of what my intial concerns are about these cameras. They aren't built to take much physical abuse. Too much delicate plastic. Just look at the battery compartment and the release lever. regards dm

June 9th, 2007, 07:59 PM	#54
David Morgan Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burbank CA Posts: 466	yep, well, I really do take care of the camera. However, I have a lot of stuff jammed into my camera case. Headphones, shotgun mic, shock mount.....the list goes on. I suspect that the mic took some unintentional upward or downward pressure. It moves at least 1/4" up and down. Definitely getting loose. On the subject of usage, I try not to use it for a lot of reasons. However, I just recorded something outdoors and there was just enough wind to create a problem with my outboard shotgun mic with windscreen. I don't have a zepplin or deadcat etc... as I don't shoot outside very often. Had to resort to the onboard mic. Definitely not my first choice but saved my bacon. regards dm

June 17th, 2007, 01:30 AM	#55
Luke Burns Tourist Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clovis, CA Posts: 4	I just got my XH A1 yesterday, and before I even shot with it, I noticed that the built-in mic was loose. It's now even making a noise like there is something loose inside it, I hear in the audio and when just lightly shaking the camera. I just wanted to make sure that this is what you guys are talking about. Is mine worse? Thanks.

June 17th, 2007, 04:20 AM	#56
Kathy Stannard Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London Posts: 35	Mines loose also, it's just the way they are built. I think using a small screw driver (for glasses) you'll be able to tighten the screw on it. I haven't tried yet. I don't tend to use the on board mic, unless it's purely as a guide track.

July 25th, 2007, 06:12 AM	#59
Steven Taylor Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 44	Wobbly A1 Mic Hi, the built in Mic on my A1 is very wobbly, I expected it to move a little for shock absorbtion.. but mine seems to rattle away from the rubber or soft element inside. Anyone had the same problem? Is there any way to adjust it? Thanks Steve

July 25th, 2007, 07:07 AM	#60
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Normal. Frequently asked. Merging w/several earlier threads. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!