Garden Party

Trish Kerr · November 1st, 2007, 05:03 PM

this is a first attempt so have mercy - no color correction shy one clip so I'm looking for advice on that

edit - I created a stream version with Evan's advice - i had to go a bit higher on the data rate (but this is 900x506) 224meg
http://www.northwitchproductions.com...stream2000.mov

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It takes a few minutes to load if you view it online - and won't show it's loading which I'm thinking is a stream setting - any web stream version I tried to create looked too degraded so this is h264 with med qual

And I tried every permutation trying to get this sucker down but it won't budge past 170meg and that was after taking it down to 640x360

http://www.northwitchproductions.com...360medqual.mov

trish

Evan Donn · November 1st, 2007, 05:45 PM

I assume you're using the standard quicktime export. At your current size you should use h.264, but instead of using the quality slider click the 'restrict to' option in the data rate section and set the rate to 900kbs. Make sure the 'Best Quality(Multi Pass)' option is checked.

In the sound section switch the format to AAC at 160kbs.

Also make sure the 'fast start' option is enabled in the 'Prepare for internet streaming' section - otherwise people have to wait for the whole file to download before they can start watching.

This will drop your file size to ~75Mb while keeping the quality high, and should stream in real time on most broadband connections. It's also iPod/iPhone compatible.

Just finished downloading for me - gotta run but I'll watch it when I get back.

Trish Kerr · November 1st, 2007, 06:12 PM

excellent - thanks for the tip(s) - i'll try that right now

trish

Ernest Freeman · November 1st, 2007, 07:27 PM

I liked it!
I had a laugh or two, thank you for that.

Steven Dempsey · November 1st, 2007, 07:43 PM

Trish,

That was fantastic. Very original and kept me wondering what's going to happen next. The editing was perfectly clippy and there was both a strangeness and a sense of humor going through the visual and aural experience.

I had a smile on my face all the way through. I'm not big into puppets (or clowns, or monkeys or sharks, or Klingons...well, you get the idea) but I really enjoyed this.

Great job!

Bill Busby · November 1st, 2007, 10:48 PM

Trish, that cracked me up! Thanks!

Bill

Carl Middleton · November 2nd, 2007, 12:32 AM

Great example of telling a story without dialogue. :) I enjoyed it, and the visuals, colors, and audio were great.

Daniel Park · November 2nd, 2007, 01:56 AM

Hee hee. Thanks so much, Trish. You made my morning!

Nothing irritates me more than art house filmmakers who seem to think that films have to tragic (and in BW) in order to be compelling. You must have had SO much fun with this.

From a technique perspective, I saw nothing major to complain about, but I'm something of a newb myself, so perhaps the more experienced forum denizens can provide you better guidance.

Great work!

cheers, Daniel

Trish Kerr · November 2nd, 2007, 06:24 AM

thanks everyone for taking the time to view it and the encouraging words. Still lots to learn, but I had a blast making it.

Trish

Ernest Freeman · November 2nd, 2007, 10:50 AM

*******EDIT********

...I guess this post would be a total spoiler for those who have not seen your piece yet.
Sorry.

Buba Kastorski · November 2nd, 2007, 10:21 PM

Da best party video I've seen,
Thank you.
:-)

Eduardo Miguel · November 5th, 2007, 01:07 AM

excellent short. Reminds me a little bit of this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEZz5HyGJ2c

Trish Kerr · November 5th, 2007, 05:58 PM

thank you! I finally know where the gremlin comes from - I can't remember where I got it from originally as it was years ago (garage sale most likely) but I could never find it after and I had no idea the eyes glow!

Boglin.

Now that leaves only one mystery monster left in my collection - I have some large lime green monster that looks like a swamp thing, with hands that resemble asparagus.

could never find reference to it online.

Jim Miller · November 5th, 2007, 07:03 PM

Excellent!

Bryan Gilchrist · November 5th, 2007, 07:49 PM

Pretty good, but the opening sequence is wayyyyy too long.

November 1st, 2007, 05:03 PM	#1
Trish Kerr Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 294	Garden Party - short this is a first attempt so have mercy - no color correction shy one clip so I'm looking for advice on that edit - I created a stream version with Evan's advice - i had to go a bit higher on the data rate (but this is 900x506) 224meg http://www.northwitchproductions.com...stream2000.mov -------------------------------------- It takes a few minutes to load if you view it online - and won't show it's loading which I'm thinking is a stream setting - any web stream version I tried to create looked too degraded so this is h264 with med qual And I tried every permutation trying to get this sucker down but it won't budge past 170meg and that was after taking it down to 640x360 http://www.northwitchproductions.com...360medqual.mov trish Last edited by Trish Kerr; November 2nd, 2007 at 06:24 AM. Reason: added a stream version

November 1st, 2007, 05:45 PM	#2
Evan Donn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 795	I assume you're using the standard quicktime export. At your current size you should use h.264, but instead of using the quality slider click the 'restrict to' option in the data rate section and set the rate to 900kbs. Make sure the 'Best Quality(Multi Pass)' option is checked. In the sound section switch the format to AAC at 160kbs. Also make sure the 'fast start' option is enabled in the 'Prepare for internet streaming' section - otherwise people have to wait for the whole file to download before they can start watching. This will drop your file size to ~75Mb while keeping the quality high, and should stream in real time on most broadband connections. It's also iPod/iPhone compatible. Just finished downloading for me - gotta run but I'll watch it when I get back. __________________ My latest short documentary: "Four Pauls: Bring the Hat Back!"

November 1st, 2007, 07:43 PM	#5
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Trish, That was fantastic. Very original and kept me wondering what's going to happen next. The editing was perfectly clippy and there was both a strangeness and a sense of humor going through the visual and aural experience. I had a smile on my face all the way through. I'm not big into puppets (or clowns, or monkeys or sharks, or Klingons...well, you get the idea) but I really enjoyed this. Great job! __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

November 2nd, 2007, 10:50 AM	#10
Ernest Freeman New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: R.S.M. Calif USA Posts: 16	*****EDIT****** ...I guess this post would be a total spoiler for those who have not seen your piece yet. Sorry. Last edited by Ernest Freeman; November 2nd, 2007 at 12:57 PM.

November 1st, 2007, 06:12 PM	#3
Trish Kerr Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 294	excellent - thanks for the tip(s) - i'll try that right now trish

November 1st, 2007, 07:27 PM	#4
Ernest Freeman New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: R.S.M. Calif USA Posts: 16	I liked it! I had a laugh or two, thank you for that.

November 1st, 2007, 10:48 PM	#6
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	Trish, that cracked me up! Thanks! Bill

November 2nd, 2007, 12:32 AM	#7
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	Great example of telling a story without dialogue. :) I enjoyed it, and the visuals, colors, and audio were great.

November 2nd, 2007, 01:56 AM	#8
Daniel Park New Boot Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Huelva, Spain Posts: 21	Hee hee. Thanks so much, Trish. You made my morning! Nothing irritates me more than art house filmmakers who seem to think that films have to tragic (and in BW) in order to be compelling. You must have had SO much fun with this. From a technique perspective, I saw nothing major to complain about, but I'm something of a newb myself, so perhaps the more experienced forum denizens can provide you better guidance. Great work! cheers, Daniel

November 2nd, 2007, 06:24 AM	#9
Trish Kerr Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 294	thanks everyone for taking the time to view it and the encouraging words. Still lots to learn, but I had a blast making it. Trish

November 2nd, 2007, 10:21 PM	#11
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Da best party video I've seen, Thank you. :-)

November 5th, 2007, 01:07 AM	#12
Eduardo Miguel Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Waukegan, Illinois Posts: 27	excellent short. Reminds me a little bit of this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEZz5HyGJ2c

November 5th, 2007, 05:58 PM	#13
Trish Kerr Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 294	thank you! I finally know where the gremlin comes from - I can't remember where I got it from originally as it was years ago (garage sale most likely) but I could never find it after and I had no idea the eyes glow! Boglin. Now that leaves only one mystery monster left in my collection - I have some large lime green monster that looks like a swamp thing, with hands that resemble asparagus. could never find reference to it online.

November 5th, 2007, 07:03 PM	#14
Jim Miller Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa,Florida Posts: 236	Excellent!

November 5th, 2007, 07:49 PM	#15
Bryan Gilchrist Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 224	Pretty good, but the opening sequence is wayyyyy too long.