2 XH-a1's FreeRun TimeCode + Capturing at DVinfo.net

Ryan Szulczewski · September 27th, 2007, 07:09 AM

If I used 2 xh-a1s in Freerun to keep their time code synced (as close as I can anyway) will there be problems capturing in FCP (or PP CS3) with all of the time code breaks?

Jose Ortiz · September 27th, 2007, 11:37 AM

I just finish a wedding using PPCS3 and worked fine. On the cS2 versionn I had a lot of issues capturing using this method with the A1. So far in this new version at least for this project, the Free run worked perfect.

We will see later

Ryan Szulczewski · September 27th, 2007, 12:19 PM

That is good to hear as I will probably go the CS3 route once I can afford to build my editing station.

Michael Friedman · September 28th, 2007, 01:00 AM

I am wondering if anyone has done this with FCP and then used the clips to make an "instant multicam" clip.

Ryan Szulczewski · September 28th, 2007, 06:43 AM

Once I get my cameras I will try a test run at work and see how FCP handles it.

Bill Pryor · September 28th, 2007, 09:39 AM

If you're talking about time code starting and stopping and then picking up at a different time code because the clock is running, FCP won't have a problem with that. Time code breaks, however, are a different story. Those are when you take a tape out, reinsert it and then don't pick up where there is already a video signal. There's no good excuse to do that, but people do it all the time, and FCP definitely does not like that.

Ryan Szulczewski · September 28th, 2007, 09:58 AM

Every so often when we review footage in the field and cue the tape up with the return function, FCP will freak out in capture.

It appears that the actual Time Code numbers don't matter as long as there is a continuous video signal.

Bill Pryor · September 28th, 2007, 10:27 AM

What happens there is that when you recue you are going past the end of the last shot and there is a gap in the video signal, and FCP (as well as Avid in my experience) really doesn't like that one bit. If you use the end search button the camera should recue automatically and stay in the video. However, I always make sure there is 5-10 seconds of rundown at the end of a scene before I watch any footage so I can recue manually without cutting into the take. Also, if you take the tape out and reinsert it, the auto recue won't work anymore, so you need rundown.

Ryan Szulczewski · September 28th, 2007, 10:42 AM

I got you. Thanks for your help, Bill.

September 27th, 2007, 07:09 AM	#1
Ryan Szulczewski Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 60	2 XH-a1's FreeRun TimeCode + Capturing If I used 2 xh-a1s in Freerun to keep their time code synced (as close as I can anyway) will there be problems capturing in FCP (or PP CS3) with all of the time code breaks? __________________ http://www.OneProVideo.com http://www.OneProDesign.com

September 27th, 2007, 12:19 PM	#3
Ryan Szulczewski Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 60	That is good to hear as I will probably go the CS3 route once I can afford to build my editing station. __________________ http://www.OneProVideo.com http://www.OneProDesign.com

September 28th, 2007, 06:43 AM	#5
Ryan Szulczewski Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 60	Once I get my cameras I will try a test run at work and see how FCP handles it. __________________ http://www.OneProVideo.com http://www.OneProDesign.com

September 28th, 2007, 09:58 AM	#7
Ryan Szulczewski Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 60	Every so often when we review footage in the field and cue the tape up with the return function, FCP will freak out in capture. It appears that the actual Time Code numbers don't matter as long as there is a continuous video signal. __________________ http://www.OneProVideo.com http://www.OneProDesign.com Last edited by Ryan Szulczewski; September 28th, 2007 at 09:58 AM. Reason: grammar

September 28th, 2007, 10:42 AM	#9
Ryan Szulczewski Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 60	I got you. Thanks for your help, Bill. __________________ http://www.OneProVideo.com http://www.OneProDesign.com

September 27th, 2007, 11:37 AM	#2
Jose Ortiz Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 347	I just finish a wedding using PPCS3 and worked fine. On the cS2 versionn I had a lot of issues capturing using this method with the A1. So far in this new version at least for this project, the Free run worked perfect. We will see later

September 28th, 2007, 01:00 AM	#4
Michael Friedman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 57	I am wondering if anyone has done this with FCP and then used the clips to make an "instant multicam" clip.

September 28th, 2007, 09:39 AM	#6
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	If you're talking about time code starting and stopping and then picking up at a different time code because the clock is running, FCP won't have a problem with that. Time code breaks, however, are a different story. Those are when you take a tape out, reinsert it and then don't pick up where there is already a video signal. There's no good excuse to do that, but people do it all the time, and FCP definitely does not like that.

September 28th, 2007, 10:27 AM	#8
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	What happens there is that when you recue you are going past the end of the last shot and there is a gap in the video signal, and FCP (as well as Avid in my experience) really doesn't like that one bit. If you use the end search button the camera should recue automatically and stay in the video. However, I always make sure there is 5-10 seconds of rundown at the end of a scene before I watch any footage so I can recue manually without cutting into the take. Also, if you take the tape out and reinsert it, the auto recue won't work anymore, so you need rundown.