How do you mount the Firestore FSC on the Canon A1? at DVinfo.net

Bill Edmunds · September 15th, 2007, 06:50 PM

I'm looking into the FSC drive... How do you mount your FSC to your A1? Use a Beebob box, or something else? Does this drive give you an indicator in the viewfinder/viewscreen that it is recording?

What's the best file format to record to the FSC if you're shooting 30f and editing in Final Cut Pro?

Brandon Paschal · September 16th, 2007, 05:33 PM

Bill,

I just received the FS-C Friday and I'm not certain there is a way. If you find out, please advise. The FS-C actually comes with documentation on how to mount it to an XL-H1. My plan is to get a small articulating arm from Zacuto for 15 mm rods. Other than that, I'm not certain.

To your question regarding the viewfinder/viewscreen, I haven't seen any indicators. The actual LCD on the FS-C blinks. I typically verify with the counter. With the "DV Out" functionality enabled within the camera, I didn't find any issue. And for what it's worth, it recognized 1080i 24f without a hitch.

Just FYI from a fellow A1 owner who thought a LONG while over getting the FS-C.

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Originally Posted by Bill Edmunds

I'm looking into the FSC drive... How do you mount your FSC to your A1? Use a Beebob box, or something else? Does this drive give you an indicator in the viewfinder/viewscreen that it is recording?

What's the best file format to record to the FSC if you're shooting 30f and editing in Final Cut Pro?

Bill Edmunds · September 16th, 2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon Paschal

To your question regarding the viewfinder/viewscreen, I haven't seen any indicators. The actual LCD on the FS-C blinks. I typically verify with the counter. With the "DV Out" functionality enabled within the camera, I didn't find any issue. And for what it's worth, it recognized 1080i 24f without a hitch.

If the firewire cable becomes disconnected from the Firestore, is there some sort of indication or *anything* to let you know it has happened? I can't fathom having to constantly look at the FS's LCD readout all the time just to make sure its recording.

Brandon Paschal · September 17th, 2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Edmunds

If the firewire cable becomes disconnected from the Firestore, is there some sort of indication or *anything* to let you know it has happened? I can't fathom having to constantly look at the FS's LCD readout all the time just to make sure its recording.

Bill,

I'm not sure. When I get a chance to play with it a bit more today, I'll be sure to let you know. I try and peek at the counter at the start of every record session. I agree that having to check is not close to ideal. I recall seeing a function called "repair drive" in the instructions in the event of losing sync, but I haven't tested it yet. I'll let you know what I find out today.

Thanks,

--Brandon

Bryan Gilchrist · October 7th, 2007, 10:41 AM

As far as mounting it, I saw someone that was using a Sony HD camera that had it mounted to the hot shoe on top of the camera. There is a hot shoe attachment, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Here's a picture of it mounted on the Sony camera via the hot shoe:
http://www.videoguys.com/prodimages/fs4hdfieldkit.jpg

THe image is from the Videoguys website, but they don't seem to sell the kit by itself that I can find.

Bruce Kurz · March 25th, 2008, 11:04 AM

I found this at b and h and looks the same as in my picture for the FS-C just different angle.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Ball_Head.html

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Originally Posted by Bryan Gilchrist

As far as mounting it, I saw someone that was using a Sony HD camera that had it mounted to the hot shoe on top of the camera. There is a hot shoe attachment, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Here's a picture of it mounted on the Sony camera via the hot shoe:
http://www.videoguys.com/prodimages/fs4hdfieldkit.jpg

THe image is from the Videoguys website, but they don't seem to sell the kit by itself that I can find.

Julian Frost · March 25th, 2008, 03:07 PM

I have the FS-C and the A1 and there is no easy way to mount one to the other, though the micro-ball mount with flash shoe connector looks intersting.

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Originally Posted by Bill Edmunds

Does this drive give you an indicator in the viewfinder/viewscreen that it is recording?

The FS-C does show that it's recording... there are various icons which display its status. However, and this is something I've written to FE about, it would be really nice if the FS-C displayed an error message if the video output from the camera was not what the FS-C was expecting as its input. As it stands now, if the camera is set up for HDV and the FS-C is set up to record SD, it'll show it's recording, but NOTHING will be saved to the FS-C's drive. I've switched the FS-C to SD to record time-lapse footage and forgotten to switch it back to HDV... only to find I've not recorded anything!

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What's the best file format to record to the FSC if you're shooting 30f and editing in Final Cut Pro?

I don't use FCP, but the FS-C will record to disk in QuickTime mode, so I'm assuming that would probably be best for you (I don't think FCP can use M2T files, right?).

Bruce Kurz · March 26th, 2008, 05:58 AM

I mean actually when I bought mine I thought it came with the hot shoe mount as it shows in the picture and it only came with the belt clip and the case. I purchased the item in my last post so it can mount to the hot shoe.

O.C. Garza · March 28th, 2008, 11:36 AM

In a pinch I use the belt clip to clip the FS-C to the camcorder grip strap and it works. With the recording indicator on the LCD, this works pretty well. It's about the only thing that strap is good for.

O.C.

Harry Hannigan · March 31st, 2008, 12:00 PM

Bill
I use a fig rig most of the time, and the FS-C mounts right on it very easily. I drop the whole thing on a tripod for static shots, and if I need something really smooth like a shot on the Steadicam Merlin, i bite the bullet and just use tape.

Fig rig is here.

http://services.manfrotto.com/figrig/

Kellen Dengler · March 31st, 2008, 12:43 PM

Hi Bill,

I'm actually going to be purchasing my FSC at NAB. I've done quite a bit of research as to mounting them. I think I'm going with the Bebob system for now:

http://www.bebob.de/international/box-firestore_e.html

I'm not totally sure how I want to set it all up once I get my rail system and matte box kit in the near future, but I'm considering this and having it mount off the back upright on the rails:

http://geardear.com/Cage.html

I've also seen people using a Noga arm off of a rail system and it looks like it would work as well:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Accessory.html

I'm hoping to be able to use the Bebob below my rail mounting system and still be able to use a shoulder brace once I have it all in place. It would all work in theory, but I want to test the comfort/performance factor...

Julian Frost · April 2nd, 2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Kurz

I mean actually when I bought mine I thought it came with the hot shoe mount as it shows in the picture and it only came with the belt clip and the case. I purchased the item in my last post so it can mount to the hot shoe.

Hmmm... I bought it too... (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Ball_Head.html) only to find that it can't attach to the FS-C!! I should have checked first! There's no 3/8" thread on the FS-! Oh well, now I have a hotshoe/ball mount, I guess I now have an excuse to buy a monitor to put on it! :-)

Bruce Kurz · April 2nd, 2008, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Julian Frost

Hmmm... I bought it too... (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Ball_Head.html) only to find that it can't attach to the FS-C!! I should have checked first! There's no 3/8" thread on the FS-! Oh well, now I have a hotshoe/ball mount, I guess I now have an excuse to buy a monitor to put on it! :-)

I bought mine from B & H and as the other guye mentioned it came with the belt clip and case. That case has the screw on the back of it that the ball mount goes into and on the hot shoe. Works great. I quted the post orig. that the FS-C came with the case and belt clip but no mount. I attached 2 pictures of the mounted FS-C

Julian Frost · April 2nd, 2008, 09:52 AM

Ah, yes, the plastic carrying bracket! I'd totally forgotten it came with that! I initially removed the belt clip and found the tiny mounting hole it left... no way to lock the mini-ball mount to that! :-) Thanks for reminding me about the included bracket. Now everything mounts as it should.

Guy Shaddock · July 28th, 2008, 11:03 PM

I just made a mount that sits on the A1 handle. It is just a piece of 1" aluminum bent into roughly an A shape. Velcro straps hold it on the A1's handle. The thumb screw that came with the mount sits through a hole in the aluminum bar. That holds the FS-C. Real simple and works well.

September 15th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#1
Bill Edmunds Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conway, NH Posts: 574	How do you mount the Firestore FSC on the Canon A1? I'm looking into the FSC drive... How do you mount your FSC to your A1? Use a Beebob box, or something else? Does this drive give you an indicator in the viewfinder/viewscreen that it is recording? What's the best file format to record to the FSC if you're shooting 30f and editing in Final Cut Pro?

March 26th, 2008, 05:58 AM	#8
Bruce Kurz New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 8	about the mount I mean actually when I bought mine I thought it came with the hot shoe mount as it shows in the picture and it only came with the belt clip and the case. I purchased the item in my last post so it can mount to the hot shoe.

March 28th, 2008, 11:36 AM	#9
O.C. Garza New Boot Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria Texas Posts: 10	FS-C and A-1 In a pinch I use the belt clip to clip the FS-C to the camcorder grip strap and it works. With the recording indicator on the LCD, this works pretty well. It's about the only thing that strap is good for. O.C.

March 31st, 2008, 12:00 PM	#10
Harry Hannigan New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 9	Fig Rig Bill I use a fig rig most of the time, and the FS-C mounts right on it very easily. I drop the whole thing on a tripod for static shots, and if I need something really smooth like a shot on the Steadicam Merlin, i bite the bullet and just use tape. Fig rig is here. http://services.manfrotto.com/figrig/

April 2nd, 2008, 09:52 AM	#14
Julian Frost Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: California USA Posts: 576	Disregard my last message! Ah, yes, the plastic carrying bracket! I'd totally forgotten it came with that! I initially removed the belt clip and found the tiny mounting hole it left... no way to lock the mini-ball mount to that! :-) Thanks for reminding me about the included bracket. Now everything mounts as it should.

October 7th, 2007, 10:41 AM	#5
Bryan Gilchrist Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 224	As far as mounting it, I saw someone that was using a Sony HD camera that had it mounted to the hot shoe on top of the camera. There is a hot shoe attachment, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Here's a picture of it mounted on the Sony camera via the hot shoe: http://www.videoguys.com/prodimages/fs4hdfieldkit.jpg THe image is from the Videoguys website, but they don't seem to sell the kit by itself that I can find.

March 31st, 2008, 12:43 PM	#11
Kellen Dengler Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 118	Hi Bill, I'm actually going to be purchasing my FSC at NAB. I've done quite a bit of research as to mounting them. I think I'm going with the Bebob system for now: http://www.bebob.de/international/box-firestore_e.html I'm not totally sure how I want to set it all up once I get my rail system and matte box kit in the near future, but I'm considering this and having it mount off the back upright on the rails: http://geardear.com/Cage.html I've also seen people using a Noga arm off of a rail system and it looks like it would work as well: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...Accessory.html I'm hoping to be able to use the Bebob below my rail mounting system and still be able to use a shoulder brace once I have it all in place. It would all work in theory, but I want to test the comfort/performance factor...

July 28th, 2008, 11:03 PM	#15
Guy Shaddock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 131	I just made a mount that sits on the A1 handle. It is just a piece of 1" aluminum bent into roughly an A shape. Velcro straps hold it on the A1's handle. The thumb screw that came with the mount sits through a hole in the aluminum bar. That holds the FS-C. Real simple and works well. Attached Thumbnails