My first wedding. My first 24f. at DVinfo.net

Eric Weiss · September 13th, 2007, 11:53 AM

Here’s a pro-bono wedding piece I did for some friends in need. This was my second shoot with the A1 and first time using 24f. I was doing a tv segment on this resort and needed models for “romance” b-roll… they were onsite getting married in a private ceremony, so it worked out pretty well.

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1184397088

Ken Wozniak · September 13th, 2007, 12:49 PM

The video quality of 24F on these cameras is quite nice.

I recently shot a 24F wedding myself. I chose it simply because I was indoors and the lighting in the church was terrible. I informed the bride ahead of time that things may seem a bit "different" about the video due to the frame rate, but I don't think she really noticed. I think everything I told her was way over her head.

By the way...what's with that person para-sailing in the background? You obviously left your triple-a back home.

Eric Weiss · September 13th, 2007, 01:54 PM

Indeed. Talking "shop" with clients is typically only good for blank stares.
The parasailing never ends over there.

David Del Real · September 13th, 2007, 02:10 PM

Nice, I really like the dining shot. Also, that's a beautiful shot of the water at the end. I was thinking about selling my XL2 so I could move to the XH-A1. This clip as well as some others on these and other forums have pretty much sealed the deal. Now I can't wait to get my hands on one.

Eric Weiss · September 13th, 2007, 03:20 PM

Thanks David. That's why I posted this. I wanted to show those on the fence what to expect "out of the box" with this cam. Before the A1 I was shooting on an XL1-S, Gl2, and ENG JVC cams. While the A1 and HV20 are my "main" cams, I still use the others and would never sell the XL. A lot of clients still only want 4x3 SD.

Jim Miller · September 13th, 2007, 06:05 PM

Too bad about the parasailing. Looks like a lot of different coloring from shot to shot. Were you on auto white balance? I do like the 24f frame rate.

Eric Weiss · September 13th, 2007, 06:37 PM

I was setting the color temp manually. The warmer shots were done after the wedding for the b-roll. The "real" ceremony was done on auto, as I was actually operating 2 other cams in addition to the A1! I had their VHS-C cam on a table next to me and their little mpeg cam in my other hand. The property shots were done for the tv segment and the spa was done the next day.

..and, I like the parasailing.

Doug Davis · September 14th, 2007, 11:26 AM

Did you use a preset of any kind? Looks great btw... : )

Eric Weiss · September 14th, 2007, 12:17 PM

On the shots that were clearly staged, I used my own "ever changing" preset..which is really just boosting the overall saturation to taste and using the color temp presets on the top to create more warmth.

I learned from the early shoots with the A1 that its light meter has an agenda of its own.

More recent, I shot this b-roll for a private charter out of Cabo
http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1184395580

All these shots are "over exposed" by one or two stops. I think the exposure is ideal. The Canon WA is also attached here. The front of this boat was pretty tight.

Rick Underwood · September 14th, 2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Weiss

Thanks David. That's why I posted this. I wanted to show those on the fence what to expect "out of the box" with this cam. Before the A1 I was shooting on an XL1-S, Gl2, and ENG JVC cams. While the A1 and HV20 are my "main" cams, I still use the others and would never sell the XL. A lot of clients still only want 4x3 SD.

What's your take on the HV20 capabilities.. vs the A1... do you have any raw footage of the camera in action without color correction.

Just curious as I am working on something for a family member..who has a hv20 (of which i have not really seen much raw footage) and not sure of its capibilties.

I'd rather just see if he will be able to sufice with shooting on teh hv20 and then i can assist him with just editing what he needs.

Any help or insight would be great..

Many thanks!

Eric Weiss · September 16th, 2007, 11:30 AM

You can't really compare the two. Is this a pro or personal project?

The HV20 is a great cam for personal use or as second cam. I use it mainly as a deck and use the HDMI out to monitor my A1 footage.

For pro use, it's limited. In decent light, it produces great images than can match up to the A1 but you will not have much control over the image. It also looks like a toy. If a client is paying you a decent amount of money, you'll probably get the stink-eye if you show up with a "stock" HV20.

I can post some HV20 stuff in a day or two, but look around this forum. It's easy to find.

I'm from Suffolk, NY as well. Huntington.

September 13th, 2007, 11:53 AM	#1
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	My first wedding. My first 24f. Here’s a pro-bono wedding piece I did for some friends in need. This was my second shoot with the A1 and first time using 24f. I was doing a tv segment on this resort and needed models for “romance” b-roll… they were onsite getting married in a private ceremony, so it worked out pretty well. http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1184397088

September 13th, 2007, 12:49 PM	#2
Ken Wozniak Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 179	The video quality of 24F on these cameras is quite nice. I recently shot a 24F wedding myself. I chose it simply because I was indoors and the lighting in the church was terrible. I informed the bride ahead of time that things may seem a bit "different" about the video due to the frame rate, but I don't think she really noticed. I think everything I told her was way over her head. By the way...what's with that person para-sailing in the background? You obviously left your triple-a back home. __________________ Woz

September 14th, 2007, 11:26 AM	#8
Doug Davis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Birmingham Alabama Posts: 259	Did you use a preset of any kind? Looks great btw... : ) __________________ "The only thing the camera sees is light..." http://www.GoWildOlive.com

September 13th, 2007, 01:54 PM	#3
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	Indeed. Talking "shop" with clients is typically only good for blank stares. The parasailing never ends over there.

September 13th, 2007, 02:10 PM	#4
David Del Real New Boot Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 15	Nice, I really like the dining shot. Also, that's a beautiful shot of the water at the end. I was thinking about selling my XL2 so I could move to the XH-A1. This clip as well as some others on these and other forums have pretty much sealed the deal. Now I can't wait to get my hands on one.

September 13th, 2007, 03:20 PM	#5
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	Thanks David. That's why I posted this. I wanted to show those on the fence what to expect "out of the box" with this cam. Before the A1 I was shooting on an XL1-S, Gl2, and ENG JVC cams. While the A1 and HV20 are my "main" cams, I still use the others and would never sell the XL. A lot of clients still only want 4x3 SD.

September 13th, 2007, 06:05 PM	#6
Jim Miller Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa,Florida Posts: 236	Too bad about the parasailing. Looks like a lot of different coloring from shot to shot. Were you on auto white balance? I do like the 24f frame rate.

September 13th, 2007, 06:37 PM	#7
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	I was setting the color temp manually. The warmer shots were done after the wedding for the b-roll. The "real" ceremony was done on auto, as I was actually operating 2 other cams in addition to the A1! I had their VHS-C cam on a table next to me and their little mpeg cam in my other hand. The property shots were done for the tv segment and the spa was done the next day. ..and, I like the parasailing.

September 14th, 2007, 12:17 PM	#9
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	On the shots that were clearly staged, I used my own "ever changing" preset..which is really just boosting the overall saturation to taste and using the color temp presets on the top to create more warmth. I learned from the early shoots with the A1 that its light meter has an agenda of its own. More recent, I shot this b-roll for a private charter out of Cabo http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1184395580 All these shots are "over exposed" by one or two stops. I think the exposure is ideal. The Canon WA is also attached here. The front of this boat was pretty tight.

September 16th, 2007, 11:30 AM	#11
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	You can't really compare the two. Is this a pro or personal project? The HV20 is a great cam for personal use or as second cam. I use it mainly as a deck and use the HDMI out to monitor my A1 footage. For pro use, it's limited. In decent light, it produces great images than can match up to the A1 but you will not have much control over the image. It also looks like a toy. If a client is paying you a decent amount of money, you'll probably get the stink-eye if you show up with a "stock" HV20. I can post some HV20 stuff in a day or two, but look around this forum. It's easy to find. I'm from Suffolk, NY as well. Huntington.