First Video Attempt at DVinfo.net

Shiv Kumar · August 7th, 2007, 04:08 AM

I recently bought an XHA1 and gave my self a project that I hope to eventually benefit my business (make a few "marketing" videos and post them on our website).

This the very first time I've attempted anything like this. Very first time attempting "lighting" as well (I did work for a production house (we made advertisement movies) many years ago for a couple of years and learnt a hack of a lot and gor hooked onto Photography and Videogrpahy ever since).

http://thehomefront.dynamicarchitect...deoPlayer.html

The link takes you to a html page that embed a FLASH video player (the video plays automatically).

The video with shot in HD1080 30f mode. I've used PP CS3 to piece things together. No color correction applied (the video look different on literally every monitor in house).

All videos with any human has been shot by me using the A1.

The aim to to use a Chroma key eventually to use a different background (simulate a great looking office is very soft focus).

I'd love to hear your opinion/critisim on the video, composition, lighting etc. and anything else you might care to critisize.

Doug Davis · August 8th, 2007, 09:37 AM

Lighting didn't look bad but the back light seemed a little bit hot... It may have just been her hair but sometime you have to compensate for that...

Overall doesn't look bad... I couldn't tell what the screen grabs of video were for because they were just a tad too small...

Some b-roll of builders building houses pasted in between may really help spice things up... Also you could add some lower thirds information so we know who is talking to us...

Looks like it has a lot of potential...

Shiv Kumar · August 8th, 2007, 09:54 AM

Doug,

Thank you for your comments!

I agree with all your comments.

The "fill" fottage is temporary in that I don't have the appropriate footage yet, so I've placed some stuff I have so I can get a sense of the final result.

On lighting:

I'm really looking for a softer/warmer look. I don't have a softbox but was wondering if a softbox will produce the effect I'm looking for. I've read about something called a beauty dish and was wondering if I should go for that instead of a softbox.

Doug Davis · August 8th, 2007, 10:05 AM

You could always just clip some diffusion on the light to make it softer... If you don't have any you can use wax paper but be careful, it can melt or become hazardous... Then there is also the option of using a bounce card or even bounce the light off the ceiling or a wall depending on the lights you are using and their power...

Not sure what your budget is or what is available but you can use those china balls (less that $20) from home depot or lowes.... They work surprisingly well as a key or fill depending on their distance from the subject...

Shiv Kumar · August 8th, 2007, 10:48 AM

China ball. Yes I've heard of people using them. My question is, what bulb goes in there?

The real intent is to use a green screen (only because I want to be able to simulate a shallow DOF and have a background that is in very soft focus). An uncontrollable light source might make that difficult no?

Doug Davis · August 8th, 2007, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv Kumar

China ball. Yes I've heard of people using them. My question is, what bulb goes in there?

Any normal +100w bulb should do the trick... Just make sure it's not an off color light...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv Kumar

The real intent is to use a green screen (only because I want to be able to simulate a shallow DOF and have a background that is in very soft focus). An uncontrollable light source might make that difficult no?

To simulate a shallow depth of field I would not recommend do a chroma key... It would probably look a little strange simply because there will be an image in focus that is your subject and then something blurry in the background...

Check out some of these videos:
http://www.digitaljuice.com/djtv/seg...searchid=28197
http://www.digitaljuice.com/djtv/seg...searchid=28197
http://www.digitaljuice.com/djtv/seg...searchid=28197

Very helpful in understanding depth of field...

Shiv Kumar · August 9th, 2007, 01:49 AM

Doug,

Thanks for the links!

Yes, I do know about the different techniques in achieving depth of field. (besides the -3db trick mean makes sense).

I'm working in a confined space for one (so the distance of the subject from the camera is only about 25 feet but then there is hardly any space between her and the background.

It so happens that I did try the green screen this evening and that's a no go since I can't seem to get the edges to not glow and the fine hair get lost as well. I'm using Premiere Pro CS3.

So Now I'm looking at faking the background (since the subject is to one side of the frame) using images and videos (simulating a screen saver on a computer screen at a prespective and out of focus. My initial tests look quite promising (I think).

Can I use a compact florescent for the lantern (in terms of color temperature)?

August 7th, 2007, 04:08 AM	#1
Shiv Kumar Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gainesville, VA, USA Posts: 327	First Video Attempt I recently bought an XHA1 and gave my self a project that I hope to eventually benefit my business (make a few "marketing" videos and post them on our website). This the very first time I've attempted anything like this. Very first time attempting "lighting" as well (I did work for a production house (we made advertisement movies) many years ago for a couple of years and learnt a hack of a lot and gor hooked onto Photography and Videogrpahy ever since). http://thehomefront.dynamicarchitect...deoPlayer.html The link takes you to a html page that embed a FLASH video player (the video plays automatically). The video with shot in HD1080 30f mode. I've used PP CS3 to piece things together. No color correction applied (the video look different on literally every monitor in house). All videos with any human has been shot by me using the A1. The aim to to use a Chroma key eventually to use a different background (simulate a great looking office is very soft focus). I'd love to hear your opinion/critisim on the video, composition, lighting etc. and anything else you might care to critisize.

August 8th, 2007, 09:37 AM	#2
Doug Davis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Birmingham Alabama Posts: 259	Lighting didn't look bad but the back light seemed a little bit hot... It may have just been her hair but sometime you have to compensate for that... Overall doesn't look bad... I couldn't tell what the screen grabs of video were for because they were just a tad too small... Some b-roll of builders building houses pasted in between may really help spice things up... Also you could add some lower thirds information so we know who is talking to us... Looks like it has a lot of potential... __________________ "The only thing the camera sees is light..." http://www.GoWildOlive.com

August 8th, 2007, 10:05 AM	#4
Doug Davis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Birmingham Alabama Posts: 259	You could always just clip some diffusion on the light to make it softer... If you don't have any you can use wax paper but be careful, it can melt or become hazardous... Then there is also the option of using a bounce card or even bounce the light off the ceiling or a wall depending on the lights you are using and their power... Not sure what your budget is or what is available but you can use those china balls (less that $20) from home depot or lowes.... They work surprisingly well as a key or fill depending on their distance from the subject... __________________ "The only thing the camera sees is light..." http://www.GoWildOlive.com

August 8th, 2007, 09:54 AM	#3
Shiv Kumar Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gainesville, VA, USA Posts: 327	Doug, Thank you for your comments! I agree with all your comments. The "fill" fottage is temporary in that I don't have the appropriate footage yet, so I've placed some stuff I have so I can get a sense of the final result. On lighting: I'm really looking for a softer/warmer look. I don't have a softbox but was wondering if a softbox will produce the effect I'm looking for. I've read about something called a beauty dish and was wondering if I should go for that instead of a softbox.

August 8th, 2007, 10:48 AM	#5
Shiv Kumar Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gainesville, VA, USA Posts: 327	China ball. Yes I've heard of people using them. My question is, what bulb goes in there? The real intent is to use a green screen (only because I want to be able to simulate a shallow DOF and have a background that is in very soft focus). An uncontrollable light source might make that difficult no?

August 9th, 2007, 01:49 AM	#7
Shiv Kumar Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gainesville, VA, USA Posts: 327	Doug, Thanks for the links! Yes, I do know about the different techniques in achieving depth of field. (besides the -3db trick mean makes sense). I'm working in a confined space for one (so the distance of the subject from the camera is only about 25 feet but then there is hardly any space between her and the background. It so happens that I did try the green screen this evening and that's a no go since I can't seem to get the edges to not glow and the fine hair get lost as well. I'm using Premiere Pro CS3. So Now I'm looking at faking the background (since the subject is to one side of the frame) using images and videos (simulating a screen saver on a computer screen at a prespective and out of focus. My initial tests look quite promising (I think). Can I use a compact florescent for the lantern (in terms of color temperature)?