New Canon XF605!

[Don Palomaki]

...very few people need XLR into the camera...

Not sure that is a valid statement unless applied to the population at large vs folks doing serious video and audio combined without a separate sound man. The adapters needed to add xlr-source audio to devices with 3.5mm input unbalanced jacks adds to the mess and tangle of the kit. Canon does offer 4K capable camcorders with the XA-series form factors and much lower prices.

I note mention that the Sony pocket cam has heat issues for longer shoots. Also, comparisons were based on "out-of-the-box" configurations which is not the same as potential in the hands of a good shooter. To each his own according to their needs and budget

[Pete Cofrancesco]

Originally Posted by Don Palomaki

Not sure that is a valid statement unless applied to the population at large vs folks doing serious video and audio combined without a separate sound man. The adapters needed to add xlr-source audio to devices with 3.5mm input unbalanced jacks adds to the mess and tangle of the kit. Canon does offer 4K capable camcorders with the XA-series form factors and much lower prices.

I note mention that the Sony pocket cam has heat issues for longer shoots. Also, comparisons were based on "out-of-the-box" configurations which is not the same as potential in the hands of a good shooter. To each his own according to their needs and budget

XLR is still very useful. I seen a lot people (including myself) make blanket statements about cameras that really only based on ones own type of work. I was filming with my camcorder today an educational documentary where I need to go around to different classes and capture what's going on while being unobtrusive. How easy it made my life. I brought zero accessories not even a bag and was able to shoot hand held and get what I needed.

I think people get carried away with mirrorless cinema cameras. Yes I always want to get one despite the camcorder still doing the job. The low light performance isn't great, the lens is slow, the AF is crap,...

I'd always like to upgrade my camcorder but many of these ones like the XF605F are expense. If you want a matched pair that's around 10k. They're priced high because they are targeted at broadcasters who need things like SDI out. But image wise they're not worth the money for what I do.

[Danilo Del Tufo]

Sorry for a silly question (probably), but I'd like to know if the Sony ECM-MS2 mic fits the XF605's the mic holder. It was compatible with C200. Thanks and have a great day! I plan to buy this camera next weeks.
Thanks! :-)

[Don Palomaki]

The pro series Canon camcorders I've used all have a 1" diameter mic holder. Your ECM is 0.94" per the spec so it should fit. If it is too loose in the mount adding a couple O-rings on the mic body, or a wrap of gaffers tape, can increase the diameter for a tighter fit.

Wonder when dealers will start offering sales on it? So far everyone seems to be asking is asking list price.

[Danilo Del Tufo]

This message is about Canon XF605 users: When the camera is set full auto, it seems (just two short tests made with the camera arrived yesterday) that ND filters didn't engage, maybe it's my eye or FULL AUTO setup disengages the use of ND filter? Thanks!

[Danilo Del Tufo]

First test under very bright sun, and little promo for an organic farm. Shooting animals that moves very quickly has forced me to make a lot of panning, but it was the first time with the camera to shoot outdoors, so please sorry the sense of seasickness with panning shots. Enjoy! :-)

Terraviva S.R.L. - YouTube

[Danilo Del Tufo]

Canon XF605 - Random Sea test - - YouTube

[Noa Put]

You might consider getting a tripod and think more about getting nicer compositions.

[Danilo Del Tufo]

Originally Posted by Noa Put

You might consider getting a tripod and think more about getting nicer compositions.

I've tripod, but I like to use the camera handled. I need to discover the difference between "Standard" and "Dynamic", I've used "dynamic", maybe this is reason of shaky footage.

[Allan Black]

Danilo, yes you need to use your tripod to stabilise your video programs, hand held is mostly for quick and nasty TV news reports.

Also to keep your horizon level, the XF605 menu will have a grid you can place over your viewfinder screen, it takes a bit of getting used to but it works very well.
Cheers.

[Danilo Del Tufo]

Originally Posted by Allan Black

Danilo, yes you need to use your tripod to stabilise your video programs, hand held is mostly for quick and nasty TV news reports.

Also to keep your horizon level, the XF605 menu will have a grid you can place over your viewfinder screen, it takes a bit of getting used to but it works very well.
Cheers.

Unfortunately I didn't use Power IS and the grid, thanks for the advice, I've bought this camera to use without a tripod despite I've 2 tripod, just run-gun shot. Hope to make better in the future.

[Allan Black]

Danilo, my guess is you don’t like to use a tripod is because it takes too long to set up and the scene has changed. But imo, unfortunately your hand held video won’t ever be steady enough to satisfy you, it’ll look to amateurish.

One other way is to use a monopod. I’ve seen video shot on a monopod that’s steady enough to have been shot on a tripod, and they’re simple enough to drop the leg down from the camera and start shooting fast. You might be able to rent one to try it out.
Cheers.

[Danilo Del Tufo]

Originally Posted by Allan Black

Danilo, my guess is you don’t like to use a tripod is because it takes too long to set up and the scene has changed. But imo, unfortunately your hand held video won’t ever be steady enough to satisfy you, it’ll look to amateurish.

One other way is to use a monopod. I’ve seen video shot on a monopod that’s steady enough to have been shot on a tripod, and they’re simple enough to drop the leg down from the camera and start shooting fast. You might be able to rent one to try it out.
Cheers.

Yes, true. I don't like to use tripod because I like to freeze the image, but I will consider a monopod, I suppose with Power IS on and Dynamic, there will be less movement, less amateurish. But for now I'm happy to have produced something, not excellent, but before with A7SIII I've filmed just a room. With XF605 I feel more confident to shoot outside. Thanks for advices and suggestions always welcome.