True Progressive live output on 300/305? at DVinfo.net

Tim Dashwood · November 20th, 2014, 11:27 PM

I am trying to record from HDMI and HD-SDI of the XF305 while in 24p mode but it is always in a 2:3 pulldown as 60i. I can't find the menu item to switch to true progressive output. Does anyone else have a suggestion?

Mark Watson · November 21st, 2014, 06:49 AM

Tim,

As I understand it, there are no options for progressive output at full HD on the camera, just 60i like you are seeing. The SMPTE 292M is capable of it, but it's not implemented in this camera. I don't know if someone (AJA, Matrox, BMD, etc.) makes a box that will convert in real time to what you want.

Canon U.S.A. : Professional Imaging Products : XF305

Mark

Jeff Pulera · November 21st, 2014, 02:52 PM

The consumer/prosumer cameras all seem to ONLY output 1080i as the norm, and it has been that way since the HDV days. Many monitors cannot handle 24p or 30p natively, so the camera makers have standardized all output to 1080i over the HDMI port. There is typically no menu setting to change that.

What are you using to record the HDMI output? The Atomos Ninja 2 can remove the pulldown and record the true 23.976 signal to hard disk as ProRes.

Thanks

Don Palomaki · November 21st, 2014, 05:27 PM

Is it 1080P capture that is output as a 1080i signal wherein the fields were captured at the same time rather than space by a field interval?

November 20th, 2014, 11:27 PM	#1
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	True Progressive live output on 300/305? I am trying to record from HDMI and HD-SDI of the XF305 while in 24p mode but it is always in a 2:3 pulldown as 60i. I can't find the menu item to switch to true progressive output. Does anyone else have a suggestion? __________________ Tim Dashwood

November 21st, 2014, 06:49 AM	#2
Mark Watson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Whidbey Island Posts: 873	Re: True Progressive live output on 300/305? Tim, As I understand it, there are no options for progressive output at full HD on the camera, just 60i like you are seeing. The SMPTE 292M is capable of it, but it's not implemented in this camera. I don't know if someone (AJA, Matrox, BMD, etc.) makes a box that will convert in real time to what you want. Canon U.S.A. : Professional Imaging Products : XF305 Mark Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Mark Watson; November 21st, 2014 at 07:34 AM. Reason: Reloaded picture.

November 21st, 2014, 02:52 PM	#3
Jeff Pulera Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 691	Re: True Progressive live output on 300/305? The consumer/prosumer cameras all seem to ONLY output 1080i as the norm, and it has been that way since the HDV days. Many monitors cannot handle 24p or 30p natively, so the camera makers have standardized all output to 1080i over the HDMI port. There is typically no menu setting to change that. What are you using to record the HDMI output? The Atomos Ninja 2 can remove the pulldown and record the true 23.976 signal to hard disk as ProRes. Thanks __________________ Jeff Pulera Safe Harbor Computers

November 21st, 2014, 05:27 PM	#4
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Re: True Progressive live output on 300/305? Is it 1080P capture that is output as a 1080i signal wherein the fields were captured at the same time rather than space by a field interval? __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com