Shooting long form video at DVinfo.net

Jack D. Hubbard · May 3rd, 2012, 10:18 AM

I am not sure this is the right place, but. I am shooting a 90-minute talk today - a lecture on Afghanistan by former commander there. Basically, I have to turn the piece around to mount on the web. Because it is an XF300, I am going to use up a lot of video real estate, and I expect it take to a long time to turn into a movie and then compress into an MP4/720 file. Anybody have experience with this type of project?

Thanks

Jack Hubbard

Al Bergstein · May 3rd, 2012, 05:28 PM

Jack, while you are likely already done with the shooting, there is no problem turning this around. Use the Canon XF utility to Export to MXF and dump all your 90 minutes into one folder. Open your NLE and import the clips you need to make up your film. (I am assuming that you are not shooting B cam by your description). Adobe Pr 5.5 and Vegas both import them natively. For FCP you'll have to transcode, which is going to cost you time.

If you are just doing a lecture, the clips should line up fine on the timeline, except for where you stopped your cam to change cards (I often use relay recordings for this if not critical to capture using dual card recording).

If you have a typical modern computer with a fast processor (i3, i5, i7 with 8GBs RAM), your rendering time should be not that long.

Was there something else you were trying to ask in your question?

Jack D. Hubbard · May 7th, 2012, 06:59 PM

Al,
Here is what I did. A Cam: XF300. BCam XF100. Shot with 32gb cards that relay recorded from A to B card.
Imported all A and B Cam cards. I used FCP7. Laid the ACam 1:09 talk down on the timeline and covered it with BCam cutaways. I also cut long scenes into shorter clips and wireframed the speaker into CU and MCU's to make it more interesting. It also required some simple GFX and Supers. It was turned into a 422 prores 1920 x 1080 movie which was huge, almost 80 gb. I compressed it on Sorenson media, made the file a 1.6gb MP4/720. Shot it on Thursday night and finished for delivery Sunday afternoon. I am sure there are better ways to do this, but it actually worked.

Al Bergstein · May 10th, 2012, 11:36 PM

Well, you could have avoided the massive transcode in either Premiere or Vegas. But it sounds like you got the job done! Good news!

May 3rd, 2012, 10:18 AM	#1
Jack D. Hubbard Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Menlo Park, CA Posts: 342	Shooting long form video I am not sure this is the right place, but. I am shooting a 90-minute talk today - a lecture on Afghanistan by former commander there. Basically, I have to turn the piece around to mount on the web. Because it is an XF300, I am going to use up a lot of video real estate, and I expect it take to a long time to turn into a movie and then compress into an MP4/720 file. Anybody have experience with this type of project? Thanks Jack Hubbard

May 3rd, 2012, 05:28 PM	#2
Al Bergstein Major Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port Townsend, WA Posts: 456	Re: Shooting long form video Jack, while you are likely already done with the shooting, there is no problem turning this around. Use the Canon XF utility to Export to MXF and dump all your 90 minutes into one folder. Open your NLE and import the clips you need to make up your film. (I am assuming that you are not shooting B cam by your description). Adobe Pr 5.5 and Vegas both import them natively. For FCP you'll have to transcode, which is going to cost you time. If you are just doing a lecture, the clips should line up fine on the timeline, except for where you stopped your cam to change cards (I often use relay recordings for this if not critical to capture using dual card recording). If you have a typical modern computer with a fast processor (i3, i5, i7 with 8GBs RAM), your rendering time should be not that long. Was there something else you were trying to ask in your question? __________________ Al Upper left hand corner of the map

May 7th, 2012, 06:59 PM	#3
Jack D. Hubbard Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Menlo Park, CA Posts: 342	Re: Shooting long form video Al, Here is what I did. A Cam: XF300. BCam XF100. Shot with 32gb cards that relay recorded from A to B card. Imported all A and B Cam cards. I used FCP7. Laid the ACam 1:09 talk down on the timeline and covered it with BCam cutaways. I also cut long scenes into shorter clips and wireframed the speaker into CU and MCU's to make it more interesting. It also required some simple GFX and Supers. It was turned into a 422 prores 1920 x 1080 movie which was huge, almost 80 gb. I compressed it on Sorenson media, made the file a 1.6gb MP4/720. Shot it on Thursday night and finished for delivery Sunday afternoon. I am sure there are better ways to do this, but it actually worked.

May 10th, 2012, 11:36 PM	#4
Al Bergstein Major Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port Townsend, WA Posts: 456	Re: Shooting long form video Well, you could have avoided the massive transcode in either Premiere or Vegas. But it sounds like you got the job done! Good news! __________________ Al Upper left hand corner of the map