XF100

Joel Guy · October 27th, 2011, 09:09 AM

Hi -

I just received an XF100 I purchased from ebay and while I am still waiting for a new battery charger to arrive to be able to turn on the camera (it didn't come with one), I had a question:

While inspecting the camera and moving it quickly from side-to-side, I noticed that the XLR controls on the left-front-side of the handle-bar make a little rattling noise as the switches move back and forth the tiniest bit in place due to, once again, the tiniest bit of give no matter where they are set.

I just wanted to know a) if this is normal or something I should be concerned about and b) if it's normal, I assume the internal mic does not pick this up?

One would think that the plastic cover for those controls would lock them in place, preventing this movement. Maybe my cover is just a little loose?

Thanks for the help!

David Mepham · October 28th, 2011, 06:59 AM

I've never noticed that before but having picked mine up and gently wobbled it they do indeed make a very small amount of noise. Having used the camera for over six months on almost a daily basis I have never heard that noise on footage I have shot, (I normally shoot one shotgun mic and the onboard for ambient). Bottom line, I wouldn't worry, it shouldn't be an issue. It might be an idea to do some test footage though before leaving feedback on eBay etc.

Dave McCallister · October 28th, 2011, 08:07 AM

Perhaps the thumb releases on the XLRs are a bit loose until an XLR is inserted?

Joel Guy · October 28th, 2011, 08:39 AM

Thanks, David! That's what I was hoping to hear. I will do some tests this weekend once the battery charger arrives and see how everything sounds.

Dave, it's actually the audio controls on the left-side of the handle - opposite the actual XLR inputs. These controls: http://usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app...o-controls.jpg

For example, the switch between Auto and Manual rocks a little back and forth, producing a little clicking sound when the camera is moved aggressively - something I don't plan on doing often but could happen sometimes.

I'm maybe being paranoid; just trying to cover all my bases as this particular ebay seller has seemed a little sketchy.

Joel Guy · November 1st, 2011, 07:44 PM

Just an update on this: I received the battery charger and was finally able to turn the camera on. I did some tests and can definitely hear the rattle in the recordings. Every time I move the camera left or right too quickly or up and down at any speed, an audible click can be heard as the switches settle into place - basically making the on-board mic useless for any kind of run-and-gun-type shooting.

Upon further inspection, I discovered a chip on the inside-bottom of the little shield that covers the audio controls, leading me to believe that at some point, something impacted the camera there and must have knocked the switches loose (or looser than normal).

I'm in the process of returning the camera.

Ashley Irvine · November 2nd, 2011, 09:41 PM

Hopefully this issue is not widespread. I spent the extra money over the XA10 to avoid this issue.

David Mepham · November 3rd, 2011, 02:53 AM

It's definitely not a widespread issue. Sorry to hear about your camera damage. I have been so impressed with mine that yesterday I had the confidence in this range enough to blow my savings on the XF300. Now my only problem is not being able to fit it in the PELI case... Ah well, something else to save for.

Ashley Irvine · November 10th, 2011, 03:40 AM

So after waiting around 2 months, my XF100 arrived and has a small amount of rattle. :/

Joel Guy · November 10th, 2011, 09:25 AM

Hi Ashley - Since I first posted this, I've had the chance to play around with a new XF100 and as David said, a small amount of rattle is normal. I didn't notice it in the recordings at all and doubt you will either - unless you are rapidly twisting the camera from side to side. In that case, a small bit of cotton under the plastic shield would do the trick.

The camera from ebay I initially reported on had a much louder rattle during even the smallest movements.

So I would definitely do some tests before you rush to conclusions about the camera you received. I bet it's just like any other new XF100 and you won't hear a thing in the actual recordings.

Ashley Irvine · November 10th, 2011, 04:24 PM

Thanks for the reply Joel. I initially heard the noises during normal handling in a quiet room. With headphones on, the rattle makes about the same level of noise as using the zoom rocker on the handle or the start/stop button up there.

Not a huge deal, and I highly doubt it'd be heard outside.

October 27th, 2011, 09:09 AM	#1
Joel Guy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 151	XF100 - XLR controls rattle? Hi - I just received an XF100 I purchased from ebay and while I am still waiting for a new battery charger to arrive to be able to turn on the camera (it didn't come with one), I had a question: While inspecting the camera and moving it quickly from side-to-side, I noticed that the XLR controls on the left-front-side of the handle-bar make a little rattling noise as the switches move back and forth the tiniest bit in place due to, once again, the tiniest bit of give no matter where they are set. I just wanted to know a) if this is normal or something I should be concerned about and b) if it's normal, I assume the internal mic does not pick this up? One would think that the plastic cover for those controls would lock them in place, preventing this movement. Maybe my cover is just a little loose? Thanks for the help!

October 28th, 2011, 06:59 AM	#2
David Mepham New Boot Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 5	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? I've never noticed that before but having picked mine up and gently wobbled it they do indeed make a very small amount of noise. Having used the camera for over six months on almost a daily basis I have never heard that noise on footage I have shot, (I normally shoot one shotgun mic and the onboard for ambient). Bottom line, I wouldn't worry, it shouldn't be an issue. It might be an idea to do some test footage though before leaving feedback on eBay etc.

October 28th, 2011, 08:07 AM	#3
Dave McCallister Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? Perhaps the thumb releases on the XLRs are a bit loose until an XLR is inserted?

October 28th, 2011, 08:39 AM	#4
Joel Guy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 151	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? Thanks, David! That's what I was hoping to hear. I will do some tests this weekend once the battery charger arrives and see how everything sounds. Dave, it's actually the audio controls on the left-side of the handle - opposite the actual XLR inputs. These controls: http://usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app...o-controls.jpg For example, the switch between Auto and Manual rocks a little back and forth, producing a little clicking sound when the camera is moved aggressively - something I don't plan on doing often but could happen sometimes. I'm maybe being paranoid; just trying to cover all my bases as this particular ebay seller has seemed a little sketchy.

November 1st, 2011, 07:44 PM	#5
Joel Guy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 151	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? Just an update on this: I received the battery charger and was finally able to turn the camera on. I did some tests and can definitely hear the rattle in the recordings. Every time I move the camera left or right too quickly or up and down at any speed, an audible click can be heard as the switches settle into place - basically making the on-board mic useless for any kind of run-and-gun-type shooting. Upon further inspection, I discovered a chip on the inside-bottom of the little shield that covers the audio controls, leading me to believe that at some point, something impacted the camera there and must have knocked the switches loose (or looser than normal). I'm in the process of returning the camera.

November 2nd, 2011, 09:41 PM	#6
Ashley Irvine New Boot Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 5	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? Hopefully this issue is not widespread. I spent the extra money over the XA10 to avoid this issue.

November 3rd, 2011, 02:53 AM	#7
David Mepham New Boot Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 5	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? It's definitely not a widespread issue. Sorry to hear about your camera damage. I have been so impressed with mine that yesterday I had the confidence in this range enough to blow my savings on the XF300. Now my only problem is not being able to fit it in the PELI case... Ah well, something else to save for.

November 10th, 2011, 03:40 AM	#8
Ashley Irvine New Boot Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 5	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? So after waiting around 2 months, my XF100 arrived and has a small amount of rattle. :/

November 10th, 2011, 09:25 AM	#9
Joel Guy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 151	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? Hi Ashley - Since I first posted this, I've had the chance to play around with a new XF100 and as David said, a small amount of rattle is normal. I didn't notice it in the recordings at all and doubt you will either - unless you are rapidly twisting the camera from side to side. In that case, a small bit of cotton under the plastic shield would do the trick. The camera from ebay I initially reported on had a much louder rattle during even the smallest movements. So I would definitely do some tests before you rush to conclusions about the camera you received. I bet it's just like any other new XF100 and you won't hear a thing in the actual recordings.

November 10th, 2011, 04:24 PM	#10
Ashley Irvine New Boot Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 5	Re: XF100 - XLR controls rattle? Thanks for the reply Joel. I initially heard the noises during normal handling in a quiet room. With headphones on, the rattle makes about the same level of noise as using the zoom rocker on the handle or the start/stop button up there. Not a huge deal, and I highly doubt it'd be heard outside.