Additional capture device for XFs? at DVinfo.net

Graham Bernard · June 4th, 2011, 12:23 AM

Does anybody use an additional method of external capturing? I'm a bit leery of just the SD chips. Being a bit belt 'n braces here.

Grazie

Nigel Barker · June 4th, 2011, 02:07 AM

Have you thought about dual recording to both cards simultaneously? This Double Slot Recording (as Canon call it) was introduced with the latest firmware update.

Josh Dahlberg · June 4th, 2011, 04:52 AM

Hi Nigel,

Is that update out yet? I've been eagerly awaiting it and have a job coming up this week that I'd love to have this extra peace of mind for.

The only update I can find is "Firmware Version 1.0.1.0", which as far as I can see only adds support for additional Lexar cards.

Robert Turchick · June 4th, 2011, 07:13 AM

I have yet to install the new firmware but it does have the dual record function which I will use. The CF cards (not SD) are very reliable. I went with SanDisk 60mbs cards which werent cheap but work without issue. I use a Nexto 250 gig box to backup cards during the shoot. Super fast and gives that extra bit of security.
Had I splurged for the 305, I may have also gone for a Nanoflash but that's way overkill for me right now and would have nearly doubled the cost.

Antony Michael Wilson · June 4th, 2011, 08:07 AM

Yes, the CF cards have been faultless for us as well. Just buy them from the Canon approved/tested list and you should be okay. The updated firmware with redundancy recording is a good idea, too. If I were to go for an external recorder, I'd choose the proven and reliable Nanoflash (also uses just CF cards and also very reliable) or wait for the Sound Devices pix 240, which will record to CF or SSD as ProRes or Avid DNx. I know everyone's excited about the BBC-approved 50Mbps 4:2:2 (re-badged Sony XDCAM HD 422) codec on the XF but I have to say that 50Mbps is nothing to get excited about, really, and you do still get visible artefacting now and then on the XF and Sony's high-end ENG cameras with this codec, so an external recorder isn't actually such a bad upgrade for the XF. However, this is nit-picking and you really shouldn't worry about using CF cards with the built-in encoder.

Adam Palomer · June 4th, 2011, 04:25 PM

The nanoFlash records to XDCAM, correct? In general, how does that compare to ProRes?

June 4th, 2011, 12:23 AM	#1
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Additional capture device for XFs? Does anybody use an additional method of external capturing? I'm a bit leery of just the SD chips. Being a bit belt 'n braces here. Grazie

June 4th, 2011, 02:07 AM	#2
Nigel Barker Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Posts: 3,531	Re: Additional capture device for XFs? Have you thought about dual recording to both cards simultaneously? This Double Slot Recording (as Canon call it) was introduced with the latest firmware update.

June 4th, 2011, 04:52 AM	#3
Josh Dahlberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 513	Re: Additional capture device for XFs? Hi Nigel, Is that update out yet? I've been eagerly awaiting it and have a job coming up this week that I'd love to have this extra peace of mind for. The only update I can find is "Firmware Version 1.0.1.0", which as far as I can see only adds support for additional Lexar cards.

June 4th, 2011, 07:13 AM	#4
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	Re: Additional capture device for XFs? I have yet to install the new firmware but it does have the dual record function which I will use. The CF cards (not SD) are very reliable. I went with SanDisk 60mbs cards which werent cheap but work without issue. I use a Nexto 250 gig box to backup cards during the shoot. Super fast and gives that extra bit of security. Had I splurged for the 305, I may have also gone for a Nanoflash but that's way overkill for me right now and would have nearly doubled the cost. __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

June 4th, 2011, 08:07 AM	#5
Antony Michael Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 343	Re: Additional capture device for XFs? Yes, the CF cards have been faultless for us as well. Just buy them from the Canon approved/tested list and you should be okay. The updated firmware with redundancy recording is a good idea, too. If I were to go for an external recorder, I'd choose the proven and reliable Nanoflash (also uses just CF cards and also very reliable) or wait for the Sound Devices pix 240, which will record to CF or SSD as ProRes or Avid DNx. I know everyone's excited about the BBC-approved 50Mbps 4:2:2 (re-badged Sony XDCAM HD 422) codec on the XF but I have to say that 50Mbps is nothing to get excited about, really, and you do still get visible artefacting now and then on the XF and Sony's high-end ENG cameras with this codec, so an external recorder isn't actually such a bad upgrade for the XF. However, this is nit-picking and you really shouldn't worry about using CF cards with the built-in encoder.

June 4th, 2011, 04:25 PM	#6
Adam Palomer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Summit, NJ Posts: 169	Re: Additional capture device for XFs? The nanoFlash records to XDCAM, correct? In general, how does that compare to ProRes?