Raw samples of Canon XF300 & Sony EX1R at DVinfo.net

Ivan Pin · July 13th, 2010, 05:12 AM

Chris Hurd · July 13th, 2010, 08:59 AM

Too bad they're not hosted on DV Info Net.

Tom Bostick · July 13th, 2010, 01:10 PM

im not getting above 11kb/s :(

Chris Hurd · July 13th, 2010, 01:16 PM

Just think, if they lived here, you'd have 'em by now.

;-)

Tans Mark · July 13th, 2010, 01:26 PM

Ivan:

Thank you for the link. So far I have downloaded the xf300 autofocus test. I think this af speed is acceptable for me. Sharpness also OK.

Ciprian Ganciulescu · July 13th, 2010, 02:48 PM

Very interesting. Dwlded the flash test for XF-300 and there are 3 tests (3 flashes) in the footage only at the first one you get the artifact of the rolling shutter (one line at the bottom) in the other two there is now artifact, in fact the flash is very even in the entire frame. If you watch the video at normal speed you don't even notice it, the flash occures only within 2 frames. Another useful info would have been the value of the shutter. Downloading the EX1R flash test ( I expect it to be as good).

Michael Galvan · July 13th, 2010, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Just think, if they lived here, you'd have 'em by now.

;-)

I sure know what you mean Chris. I wonder what your thoughts are on this Ivan? ;P

Barlow Elton · July 13th, 2010, 04:35 PM

I played with the XF-305 at a local dealer for a little while yesterday. I was able to grab a few raw recordings on CF but nothing all that interesting other than decent examples of how the camera handled mixed light on the showroom floor. Screen grab is attached from one clip. (near full telephoto, 0 db, F 2.6, 1080 24p, 50 mbs)

Let me just say that I'm impressed overall with the camera. Very professional and extremely well-built.

More commentary later.

Les Wilson · July 13th, 2010, 05:04 PM

What tools are you using to watch these on a Mac? The EX1's MP4s threw an error in the QT player and XF files are MXF.

Barlow Elton · July 13th, 2010, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Wilson

What tools are you using to watch these on a Mac? The EX1's MP4s threw an error in the QT player and XF files are MXF.

Just the Mac VLC player. VLC can play just about anything

Ivan Pin · July 13th, 2010, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Galvan

. . . I wonder what your thoughts are on this Ivan? ;P

Michael,
The clips are hosted on an italian site which was found quite accidentally by Google.
I would like they be hosted on DvInfo.net. But sorry I have no rights on them.

Eddie Coates · July 14th, 2010, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Wilson

What tools are you using to watch these on a Mac? The EX1's MP4s threw an error in the QT player and XF files are MXF.

I use VLC for all video playback formats and have no problems at all.

Just my two cents

I also found this Canon XF300 test and I am very impressed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uMZ486Iq5s

Jeff Anselmo · July 14th, 2010, 11:37 AM

Hi Barlow,

Thanks for that screen grab. The pic looks really sharp at those settings!

Any chance you can upload raw MXF files that you captured?

Best,

Nicholas de Kock · July 14th, 2010, 12:42 PM

Here is a few snapshots I took of the vertical pan clips using the VLC player for those that don't want to wait forever to download a clip. The XF300 looks incredible compared against the EX1. I fully understand why the BBC has approved the XF300 for broadcast if these results are anything to go by. Colours are rich, skin tones realistic, and there is clearly more detail in the XF300.

I'm not sure what the test setup was like, looking at the clips the EX1 looks like it was shot in a darker tungsten setup while the XF300 seem to be in a bright daylight environment? Can tthe difference between the two cameras be that far apart?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivan Pin

The XF300 & EX1R tests were conducted at different times.

Does this mean there was different lighting conditions? I have seen a few Youtube videos that echo this colour difference, is 4:2:2 the missing link we've been waiting for?

Ivan Pin · July 14th, 2010, 08:55 PM

Nicholas,
I have no info about the lighting conditions during the tests.
The site has several other tests of camcoders from different manufacturers.
I chose XF300 & EX1R because of their belonging to the same price range.

July 13th, 2010, 05:12 AM	#1
Ivan Pin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Novosibirsk, Russia Posts: 46	Raw samples of Canon XF300 & Sony EX1R Test shooting in a studio. Warning: The access to the host site is not stable. Sometimes the site is overloaded. If it your case, try later. Canon XF300 (ZIP-archives with raw .MXF-files): - Vertical panorama: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...averticale.zip - Autofocus speed: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...aautofocus.zip - Change focus: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...ambiofuoco.zip - Zoom range: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...rsionezoom.zip - The reaction to photo flash: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...ashbanding.zip - Light field: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...uceincampo.zip - Rolling shutter: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...ingshutter.zip - Slow motion (720p): http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...slowmotion.zip For comparision, Sony PMW-EX1R: - Vertical panorama: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...x1rpanvert.zip - Autofocus speed: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...rautofocus.zip - Change focus: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...ambiofuoco.zip - Zoom range: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...rsionezoom.zip - The reaction to photo flash: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo.../ex1rflash.zip - Light field: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...uceincampo.zip - Rolling shutter: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...ex1rolling.zip - Slow motion: http://www.adcom.it/public/filevideo...ex1rslowmo.zip The XF300 & EX1R tests were conducted at different times. P.S. The clips are taken from an italian e-shop site. Not sure whether permisable to indicate a direct link to the site.

July 13th, 2010, 08:59 AM	#2
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July 13th, 2010, 01:16 PM	#4
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July 13th, 2010, 04:35 PM	#8
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	I played with the XF-305 at a local dealer for a little while yesterday. I was able to grab a few raw recordings on CF but nothing all that interesting other than decent examples of how the camera handled mixed light on the showroom floor. Screen grab is attached from one clip. (near full telephoto, 0 db, F 2.6, 1080 24p, 50 mbs) Let me just say that I'm impressed overall with the camera. Very professional and extremely well-built. More commentary later. Attached Thumbnails

July 14th, 2010, 11:37 AM	#13
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	upload clips to dvinfo? Hi Barlow, Thanks for that screen grab. The pic looks really sharp at those settings! Any chance you can upload raw MXF files that you captured? Best, __________________ --JA

July 13th, 2010, 01:10 PM	#3
Tom Bostick Major Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Austin TX Posts: 292	im not getting above 11kb/s :(

July 13th, 2010, 01:26 PM	#5
Tans Mark Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: EU Posts: 60	Ivan: Thank you for the link. So far I have downloaded the xf300 autofocus test. I think this af speed is acceptable for me. Sharpness also OK.

July 13th, 2010, 02:48 PM	#6
Ciprian Ganciulescu New Boot Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 13	Very interesting. Dwlded the flash test for XF-300 and there are 3 tests (3 flashes) in the footage only at the first one you get the artifact of the rolling shutter (one line at the bottom) in the other two there is now artifact, in fact the flash is very even in the entire frame. If you watch the video at normal speed you don't even notice it, the flash occures only within 2 frames. Another useful info would have been the value of the shutter. Downloading the EX1R flash test ( I expect it to be as good).

July 13th, 2010, 05:04 PM	#9
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	What tools are you using to watch these on a Mac? The EX1's MP4s threw an error in the QT player and XF files are MXF.

July 14th, 2010, 08:55 PM	#15
Ivan Pin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Novosibirsk, Russia Posts: 46	Nicholas, I have no info about the lighting conditions during the tests. The site has several other tests of camcoders from different manufacturers. I chose XF300 & EX1R because of their belonging to the same price range.