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Don Palomaki · December 14th, 2017, 12:49 PM

So what is the story on the new XA11/G21?

Andreas Jaeger · December 15th, 2017, 04:32 AM

Hi,

the Story is:
They are cheaper (rough 500,-) then previously XA30 / Vixia G40.
Because no more WLAN.
Because no more Wireless infrared Remote.
Because an 3" Display (non OLED), before it is an 3,5" Display as OLED.

So the same as before with less Features and a lower pricepoint.

Bryan Worsley · December 16th, 2017, 07:33 PM

And with release of the HF-G21, the HF-G20 has now been discontinued.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909792-REG/Canon_8063b002_32GB_VIXIA_HF_G20.html/BI/2855/KBID/3801

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora...e-vixia-hf-g21

Inevitable at some point I suppose, but a pity in some respects. Lower price-point aside, a large part of it's 'legacy appeal' was undoubtedly the smaller size and weight that made for comfortable single handed operation, at least compared to the HF-G30 (the original 'flagship' successor), and now the HF-G40.

Interesting that the HF-G21 now being promoted (by B&H at least) as it's replacement, is the same size as the HF-G40 and only 20g lighter, according to the specs. I wonder if it will have the same appeal as the HF-G20 did.

Bryan Worsley · December 20th, 2017, 01:55 PM

And now B&H have the HF-G20 in stock again:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909792-REG/Canon_8063b002_32GB_VIXIA_HF_G20.html/BI/2855/KBID/3801

Likely they were initially notified by Canon that production has or will be discontinued but there is inventory in the distribution network to be cleared. Or maybe they read my last post ;>)

Tom Van den Berghe · January 22nd, 2019, 11:48 AM

I read always very goods reviews about these camcorders (XA30/XA35/XA11/XA15)
they have 20x zoom and a fast 1.8 - 2.8 F stop. the reviewers always say the low light is very good.

(I looked at B&H, amazon, ... reviews)

But how this camcorder compare against a 1 inch sensor camcorder? Is the low light better/worse?

Don Palomaki · April 3rd, 2019, 06:05 AM

I see XA40/45/50/55 & G60 announced to be out in July

Specs are a bit sketchy - things like 10-bit and 4:2:2 and not clear

B&H pre-order price points do not seem too outrageous..

Wonder if they will generate any buzz?

Tim Lewis · April 7th, 2019, 05:53 AM

I see that the models vary a little between NTSC- and PAL-Land, I have not seen a PAL 45, but the 50 looks really nice. The 1" sensor, DPAF and 4K are very tempting. Meanwhile my HF200's turn ten this year and are still use every week, bless their cotton socks!

December 14th, 2017, 12:49 PM	#1
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	New Camcorders? So what is the story on the new XA11/G21? __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

December 15th, 2017, 04:32 AM	#2
Andreas Jaeger Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 40	Re: New Camcorders? Hi, the Story is: They are cheaper (rough 500,-) then previously XA30 / Vixia G40. Because no more WLAN. Because no more Wireless infrared Remote. Because an 3" Display (non OLED), before it is an 3,5" Display as OLED. So the same as before with less Features and a lower pricepoint.

December 16th, 2017, 07:33 PM	#3
Bryan Worsley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 439	Re: New Camcorders? And with release of the HF-G21, the HF-G20 has now been discontinued. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909792-REG/Canon_8063b002_32GB_VIXIA_HF_G20.html/BI/2855/KBID/3801 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora...e-vixia-hf-g21 Inevitable at some point I suppose, but a pity in some respects. Lower price-point aside, a large part of it's 'legacy appeal' was undoubtedly the smaller size and weight that made for comfortable single handed operation, at least compared to the HF-G30 (the original 'flagship' successor), and now the HF-G40. Interesting that the HF-G21 now being promoted (by B&H at least) as it's replacement, is the same size as the HF-G40 and only 20g lighter, according to the specs. I wonder if it will have the same appeal as the HF-G20 did. Last edited by Bryan Worsley; December 17th, 2017 at 09:16 AM.

December 20th, 2017, 01:55 PM	#4
Bryan Worsley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 439	Re: New Camcorders? And now B&H have the HF-G20 in stock again: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909792-REG/Canon_8063b002_32GB_VIXIA_HF_G20.html/BI/2855/KBID/3801 Likely they were initially notified by Canon that production has or will be discontinued but there is inventory in the distribution network to be cleared. Or maybe they read my last post ;>)

January 22nd, 2019, 11:48 AM	#5
Tom Van den Berghe Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: BELGIUM Posts: 405	Re: New Camcorders? I read always very goods reviews about these camcorders (XA30/XA35/XA11/XA15) they have 20x zoom and a fast 1.8 - 2.8 F stop. the reviewers always say the low light is very good. (I looked at B&H, amazon, ... reviews) But how this camcorder compare against a 1 inch sensor camcorder? Is the low light better/worse?

April 3rd, 2019, 06:05 AM	#6
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Re: New Camcorders? I see XA40/45/50/55 & G60 announced to be out in July Specs are a bit sketchy - things like 10-bit and 4:2:2 and not clear B&H pre-order price points do not seem too outrageous.. Wonder if they will generate any buzz? __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

April 7th, 2019, 05:53 AM	#7
Tim Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Perth, Western Australia. Posts: 591	Re: New Camcorders? I see that the models vary a little between NTSC- and PAL-Land, I have not seen a PAL 45, but the 50 looks really nice. The 1" sensor, DPAF and 4K are very tempting. Meanwhile my HF200's turn ten this year and are still use every week, bless their cotton socks! __________________ Cheers Tim