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Blake Tijerina · April 1st, 2011, 03:41 PM

Got my XA10 yesterday been playing around with it so far i love it. will have some videos soon ill post links up here when i do

D.J. Ammons · April 2nd, 2011, 09:09 AM

Congratulatons! I am anxious to hear how this camera performs in low light situations from both a picture standpoint and from an autofoucs one. Any report you can give will be appreciated!

Ken Ross · April 2nd, 2011, 01:45 PM

Blake, I'd love to see some daylight type shots with it. I'm expecting mine on Tuesday, and I'm less concerned about the low light (given the rave reviews I've seen) than I am about the good light videos relative to a camcorder like the Panasonic 900 (which I have). I just don't want to sacrifice too much picture quality in good light for the superior low light of the XA10. It just depends on how much better the 900 is in good light (if at all).

Blake Tijerina · April 2nd, 2011, 09:23 PM

Okay the low light was amazing! I will get some video up tomorrow of the night shots. (I used MF the whole time.) i will get auto here soon. it was super cloudy today in Ohio so I hope to get some daylight tomorrow maybe have those up as well.

Spiros Zaharakis · April 3rd, 2011, 02:41 PM

Do you have anything else to compare it with?
It would be nice to see a side by side comparison with a DSLR (with a lens equaly fast though)

Blake Tijerina · April 3rd, 2011, 06:16 PM

Kinda I used a t2i 50mm lens 1/30 iso 400 at a f2.8 well the XA10 i tried to get the zoom right pretty sure i failed it was at a 6db f2.8 and a 1/24. i was shooting in 24p with the XA10. I'm not to sure on the iso to db so yeah. and the T2i was manual whit balance i use Magic Lantern and the XA10 was auto if you guys want to see the video let me know

Ken Ross · April 3rd, 2011, 06:35 PM

Blake, I'd love to see a TMV700-XA10 comparison.

Blake Tijerina · April 3rd, 2011, 09:20 PM

Okay here is some raw footage it is exported to h.264 with adobe.
YouTube - XA10 Raw test
Feel free to watch my other videos as well (wedding reel, NF Photo shoot) and let me know what you think.
The rest of the videos i did not do. All but the fighting ones were from film camps i help put on every year.
I will be putting up the XA10 T2i next now that is rough just to warn you

Spiros Zaharakis · April 4th, 2011, 02:38 AM

Thanks Blake,

The best way to do a low light comparison with the T2i is to place the two cameras next to eachother, zoom in with the XA10 to obtain the same field of view as with the T2i and the 50mm lens, set on the XA10 the widest possible aperture, 1/24 or 1/30 shutter speed, and put the same aperture and the slowest available shutter speed on the T2i (1/30). Adjust gain and ISO to get a good exposure (make sure you get the same exposure on both) and shoot.
Repeat the test for daylight shooting using shutter speed of 1/50th but this time you can also try to match the DOF. In that case you will need to set the XA10 at the widest aperture and the T2i at an aperture that gives you a similar DOF.

Blake Tijerina · April 4th, 2011, 07:44 AM

Thanks for the info I will be doing a DOF test tonight so that helps a lot I will upload when done

Blake Tijerina · April 4th, 2011, 10:37 PM

Okay here is more videos From the XA10 DOF testing i was doing tonight. specs are listed in the video and on the youtube page.

YouTube - DOF Test

YouTube - XA10 DOF

Lou Bruno · April 6th, 2011, 05:50 PM

WOW!! I am impressed. Used the Xa10 today for the first time. Lowlight is better than my HF s10 and 11. Of course my XF-300 is in a different arena but the cameras sure match well. Just have to lower the XF-300 sharpness to -10.

Outdoors was incredible. It was written in another forum that the 1/3 inch chip is not as sharp as the prior 1/2.5 chip due to pixel size. However, I can't really see a BIG difference if any at all.

HINT: Use the VIVID setting outdoors. The ND filter is on automatic.

Blake Tijerina · April 6th, 2011, 08:43 PM

Agree 100% I was blown away with the Canon XA10. I did not like the auto ND filters but that so far is my only complaint. so thanks for the vivid suggestion. I have not had the opportunity to use the XF300 but I'm saving so that will be my next buy

D.J. Ammons · April 6th, 2011, 10:39 PM

Thanks guys for the real world hands on reports and footage. I currently shoowt weddings with 2 Sony V1U's and a little Canon HV20 as the B roll backup cam (locked down wide shot). That little Canon has save our butt many times as the shot to cut to in editing. With a little color correction it matches the Sony's and looks pretty darn good. I would imagine the XA10 would be a significant step up from the HV20 so it is on my short list for a new camera.

Troy Moss · April 21st, 2011, 10:07 PM

Blake and Ken, where did you purchase the Canon XA10? I would like to purchase this camera!

Thanks!

Troy

April 1st, 2011, 03:41 PM	#1
Blake Tijerina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Canon xa10 Got my XA10 yesterday been playing around with it so far i love it. will have some videos soon ill post links up here when i do

April 2nd, 2011, 09:09 AM	#2
D.J. Ammons Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 506	Re: Canon xa10 Congratulatons! I am anxious to hear how this camera performs in low light situations from both a picture standpoint and from an autofoucs one. Any report you can give will be appreciated!

April 2nd, 2011, 01:45 PM	#3
Ken Ross Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,945	Re: Canon xa10 Blake, I'd love to see some daylight type shots with it. I'm expecting mine on Tuesday, and I'm less concerned about the low light (given the rave reviews I've seen) than I am about the good light videos relative to a camcorder like the Panasonic 900 (which I have). I just don't want to sacrifice too much picture quality in good light for the superior low light of the XA10. It just depends on how much better the 900 is in good light (if at all).

April 2nd, 2011, 09:23 PM	#4
Blake Tijerina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Re: Canon xa10 Okay the low light was amazing! I will get some video up tomorrow of the night shots. (I used MF the whole time.) i will get auto here soon. it was super cloudy today in Ohio so I hope to get some daylight tomorrow maybe have those up as well.

April 3rd, 2011, 02:41 PM	#5
Spiros Zaharakis Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 171	Re: Canon xa10 Do you have anything else to compare it with? It would be nice to see a side by side comparison with a DSLR (with a lens equaly fast though)

April 3rd, 2011, 06:16 PM	#6
Blake Tijerina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Re: Canon xa10 Kinda I used a t2i 50mm lens 1/30 iso 400 at a f2.8 well the XA10 i tried to get the zoom right pretty sure i failed it was at a 6db f2.8 and a 1/24. i was shooting in 24p with the XA10. I'm not to sure on the iso to db so yeah. and the T2i was manual whit balance i use Magic Lantern and the XA10 was auto if you guys want to see the video let me know

April 3rd, 2011, 06:35 PM	#7
Ken Ross Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,945	Re: Canon xa10 Blake, I'd love to see a TMV700-XA10 comparison.

April 3rd, 2011, 09:20 PM	#8
Blake Tijerina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Re: Canon xa10 Okay here is some raw footage it is exported to h.264 with adobe. YouTube - XA10 Raw test Feel free to watch my other videos as well (wedding reel, NF Photo shoot) and let me know what you think. The rest of the videos i did not do. All but the fighting ones were from film camps i help put on every year. I will be putting up the XA10 T2i next now that is rough just to warn you

April 4th, 2011, 02:38 AM	#9
Spiros Zaharakis Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 171	Re: Canon xa10 Thanks Blake, The best way to do a low light comparison with the T2i is to place the two cameras next to eachother, zoom in with the XA10 to obtain the same field of view as with the T2i and the 50mm lens, set on the XA10 the widest possible aperture, 1/24 or 1/30 shutter speed, and put the same aperture and the slowest available shutter speed on the T2i (1/30). Adjust gain and ISO to get a good exposure (make sure you get the same exposure on both) and shoot. Repeat the test for daylight shooting using shutter speed of 1/50th but this time you can also try to match the DOF. In that case you will need to set the XA10 at the widest aperture and the T2i at an aperture that gives you a similar DOF.

April 4th, 2011, 07:44 AM	#10
Blake Tijerina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Re: Canon xa10 Thanks for the info I will be doing a DOF test tonight so that helps a lot I will upload when done

April 4th, 2011, 10:37 PM	#11
Blake Tijerina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Re: Canon xa10 Okay here is more videos From the XA10 DOF testing i was doing tonight. specs are listed in the video and on the youtube page. YouTube - DOF Test YouTube - XA10 DOF

April 6th, 2011, 05:50 PM	#12
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	Re: Canon xa10 WOW!! I am impressed. Used the Xa10 today for the first time. Lowlight is better than my HF s10 and 11. Of course my XF-300 is in a different arena but the cameras sure match well. Just have to lower the XF-300 sharpness to -10. Outdoors was incredible. It was written in another forum that the 1/3 inch chip is not as sharp as the prior 1/2.5 chip due to pixel size. However, I can't really see a BIG difference if any at all. HINT: Use the VIVID setting outdoors. The ND filter is on automatic. __________________ Lou Bruno

April 6th, 2011, 08:43 PM	#13
Blake Tijerina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 26	Re: Canon xa10 Agree 100% I was blown away with the Canon XA10. I did not like the auto ND filters but that so far is my only complaint. so thanks for the vivid suggestion. I have not had the opportunity to use the XF300 but I'm saving so that will be my next buy

April 6th, 2011, 10:39 PM	#14
D.J. Ammons Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 506	Re: Canon xa10 Thanks guys for the real world hands on reports and footage. I currently shoowt weddings with 2 Sony V1U's and a little Canon HV20 as the B roll backup cam (locked down wide shot). That little Canon has save our butt many times as the shot to cut to in editing. With a little color correction it matches the Sony's and looks pretty darn good. I would imagine the XA10 would be a significant step up from the HV20 so it is on my short list for a new camera.

April 21st, 2011, 10:07 PM	#15
Troy Moss Major Player Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Posts: 253	Re: Canon xa10 Blake and Ken, where did you purchase the Canon XA10? I would like to purchase this camera! Thanks! Troy