Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011

Steve Wolla · January 24th, 2011, 11:08 PM

That's great as I really like the new Canons. Better low light vs. the HFS-10 is one thing I am looking for. looks like a really viable alternative to the HMC40.

And It looks like the interface-the menu and how it navigates- on the XA10 is miles ahead of the HFS-10--that's a good thing for sure.

But I too do wish they had included 1080/60p ala Panasonic. Oh well, everything else important seems to be present and accounted for.

Paul Elertson · February 9th, 2011, 11:37 AM

Any ideas as to when this will be released?

Floris van Eck · February 9th, 2011, 03:06 PM

It will be released in march. And if you Google, you will find a review of the XA10 that compares it with the TM-700 and last years Canon model.

Eric Dyer · March 4th, 2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Elertson

Any ideas as to when this will be released?

It went up for pre-order on Amazon and BH yesterday.

Ken Ross · March 4th, 2011, 01:40 PM

Eric, I saw that yesterday in addition to the M41 being 'in stock' on Amazon. Today however it seems as if they took it down and once again the message 'product has not yet been relesaed'. So I wonder if they really ever got any in.

These have actually been available for pre-order for a few weeks now.

Eric Dyer · March 4th, 2011, 04:22 PM

hmm, since it's announcement BH has always stated available in March, a few days ago however BH stated available in April, which made me mad, but then yesterday I saw it was up for pre-order. So who knows? Maybe June :D

Buba Kastorski · March 11th, 2011, 12:04 AM

I can hardly believe it, and i sure will do my own test, but to be honest i was expecting something like that

YouTube - Canon XA10 & XF105

Steve Wolla · March 12th, 2011, 02:50 AM

That video, while inconclusive, is very interesting. Based upon it, the XA10 seems to have a little better image quality overall.

Roger Shealy · March 12th, 2011, 05:53 AM

I'd like to see a comparison of picture quality of the XA10 compared to the Panasonic TM900.

Steve Wolla · March 12th, 2011, 12:19 PM

So would I, that would be real interesting.

Michael Murie · March 17th, 2011, 08:31 AM

Got to handle these two cameras briefly at a camera show on the weekend. has some nice features: Notes On Video: Two amazing little cameras from Canon

Spiros Zaharakis · March 17th, 2011, 11:06 AM

Slashcam from Germany just released a test Google Translate

Michael Wisniewski · March 17th, 2011, 08:03 PM

I'm really happy with the low light reviews of the Canon XA10 & HFG10. That last German review seems to say that low light performance was just a step down from the 7D, and all other reviews I've seen indicate similar results. One review rates the HFG10 and 7D as almost equal in low light sensitivity & noise. The only low light metric where the 7D pulls away is color performance.

So the trade off seems to be: interchangeable lenses and DOF abilities with aliasing & moire issues vs a properly designed but fixed lens video camcorder. Either way, great choices all around.

Steve Wolla · March 20th, 2011, 05:24 PM

It would be interesting to actually see some testing between the 7D, 60D, etc against the HF-G10/ XA10 and see what the results really are. Seems pretty incredible if it can really come so close to the 7D, with its much larger chip.

Mikko Topponen · March 21st, 2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Wisniewski

I'm really happy with the low light reviews of the Canon XA10 & HFG10. That last German review seems to say that low light performance was just a step down from the 7D, and all other reviews I've seen indicate similar results.

With what lens? The 7d is horrible in low light with the f3.5 kit lens but pretty damn good with an f1.4 lens.

Is the XA10 as good as the 7d with a f1.4 lens? Or as bad with the f3.5?

February 9th, 2011, 11:37 AM	#17
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March 4th, 2011, 01:40 PM	#20
Ken Ross Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,945	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 Eric, I saw that yesterday in addition to the M41 being 'in stock' on Amazon. Today however it seems as if they took it down and once again the message 'product has not yet been relesaed'. So I wonder if they really ever got any in. These have actually been available for pre-order for a few weeks now.

March 4th, 2011, 04:22 PM	#21
Eric Dyer Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CA Posts: 55	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 hmm, since it's announcement BH has always stated available in March, a few days ago however BH stated available in April, which made me mad, but then yesterday I saw it was up for pre-order. So who knows? Maybe June :D

March 11th, 2011, 12:04 AM	#22
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 I can hardly believe it, and i sure will do my own test, but to be honest i was expecting something like that YouTube - Canon XA10 & XF105 __________________ I love this place!

March 12th, 2011, 02:50 AM	#23
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 That video, while inconclusive, is very interesting. Based upon it, the XA10 seems to have a little better image quality overall.

January 24th, 2011, 11:08 PM	#16
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	That's great as I really like the new Canons. Better low light vs. the HFS-10 is one thing I am looking for. looks like a really viable alternative to the HMC40. And It looks like the interface-the menu and how it navigates- on the XA10 is miles ahead of the HFS-10--that's a good thing for sure. But I too do wish they had included 1080/60p ala Panasonic. Oh well, everything else important seems to be present and accounted for.

February 9th, 2011, 03:06 PM	#18
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	It will be released in march. And if you Google, you will find a review of the XA10 that compares it with the TM-700 and last years Canon model.

March 12th, 2011, 05:53 AM	#24
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 I'd like to see a comparison of picture quality of the XA10 compared to the Panasonic TM900.

March 12th, 2011, 12:19 PM	#25
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 So would I, that would be real interesting.

March 17th, 2011, 08:31 AM	#26
Michael Murie Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Woburn, MA Posts: 205	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 Got to handle these two cameras briefly at a camera show on the weekend. has some nice features: Notes On Video: Two amazing little cameras from Canon __________________ -- www.notesonvideo.com

March 17th, 2011, 11:06 AM	#27
Spiros Zaharakis Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 171	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 Slashcam from Germany just released a test Google Translate

March 17th, 2011, 08:03 PM	#28
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 I'm really happy with the low light reviews of the Canon XA10 & HFG10. That last German review seems to say that low light performance was just a step down from the 7D, and all other reviews I've seen indicate similar results. One review rates the HFG10 and 7D as almost equal in low light sensitivity & noise. The only low light metric where the 7D pulls away is color performance. So the trade off seems to be: interchangeable lenses and DOF abilities with aliasing & moire issues vs a properly designed but fixed lens video camcorder. Either way, great choices all around. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

March 20th, 2011, 05:24 PM	#29
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	Re: Canon XA10 and HFG10 pics and impressions - CES 2011 It would be interesting to actually see some testing between the 7D, 60D, etc against the HF-G10/ XA10 and see what the results really are. Seems pretty incredible if it can really come so close to the 7D, with its much larger chip.