Intensity now supports HV20

Kristian Lam · June 13th, 2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Mischke

Just back from Mediatech, our local bi-annual trade show (broadcasting, video, audio etc). Interesting thing is that I went to the company "apparently" representing Blackmagic (or one of the Blackmagic products) --- and they had not heard of the Intensity card.
Good choice of representatives, there, Blackmagic!
I would have bought one on the spot.
Ah, well, perhaps better luck in 2 years' time.
Also noticeable by their absence was Adobe and, for that matter, Cineform.
And meanwhile the HV20's keep flying off the shelves here --- the entire South Africa seems to have gone HV20 (and HDV generally).

Carl,
Jo'burg

Hi Carl,

Thanks for the heads up and I'll let the guys here know about this. I doubt these guys you'd mentioned are representing us. Intensity is flying off the shelves and any reseller worth their while should know about it.

Carl Mischke · June 14th, 2007, 01:19 AM

Kristian
The Blackmagic Decklink, as indicated in the Mediatech Guide, was represented by Apple IMC South Africa. One would have thought ...

Carl,
Jo'burg

Brendan Gallagher · June 14th, 2007, 02:39 PM

The BM Intensity cared works well with Premiere offering HDMI out to my 24" BenQ monitor. But I can't seem to get it to work with Vegas.

I wonder if anyone who owns this combination has been able to use an HDMI out monitor with Sony Vegas 7e?

Curious minds would like to know.

Brendan G.
killersocks.com

Kristian Lam · June 14th, 2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan Gallagher

The BM Intensity cared works well with Premiere offering HDMI out to my 24" BenQ monitor. But I can't seem to get it to work with Vegas.

I wonder if anyone who owns this combination has been able to use an HDMI out monitor with Sony Vegas 7e?

Curious minds would like to know.

Brendan G.
killersocks.com

Hi Brendan,

Unfortunately, we don't support Vegas at this point.

Daymon Hoffman · June 15th, 2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Lam

Hi Brendan,

Unfortunately, we don't support Vegas at this point.

Is support for Vegas expected?

Thomas Smet · June 15th, 2007, 08:26 AM

Vegas support has kind of had to come from the SONY side. You will notice that Vegas only seems to support a certain driver version for Blackmagic cards. This driver is usually built into Vegas so the card driver doesn't get updated until Vegas gets updated. The Intensity card came out after the latest main version of Vegas so the card will not work. Some of the main Blackmagic cards do work as long as they work with the older driver that is supported by Vegas.

You need to ask SONY to add support for the Intensity card with at least driver 1.5.

Peter Moretti · June 18th, 2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Lam

Hi Brendan,

Unfortunately, we don't support Vegas at this point.

I looked at your webiste. Its seems that Intesity cards don't work with Avid either. Is that correct?

Thanks.

Kristian Lam · June 19th, 2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti

I looked at your webiste. Its seems that Intesity cards don't work with Avid either. Is that correct?

Thanks.

Yes, this is correct. If Avid allows us to plug into them system, we would love to. :)

Peter Moretti · June 20th, 2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Lam

Yes, this is correct. If Avid allows us to plug into them system, we would love to. :)

Kristian,

How about Windows Movie Maker? (I'm serious; I'd love to use your card, just trying to figure out how.)

Dale Backus · June 20th, 2007, 02:31 PM

Hey there,

I've been looking the intensity for quite some time but there's something that i just can't get clarified. (Great product, btw)

What are the system requirements for running the intensity with the HV20? If you're capturing uncompressed, i imagine a ridiculously fast raid array is necessary. But what about processor and memory requirements? I've heard things (in this thread) about capturing directly to ProRes422? Does that require a screaming processor and a lot of memory to do? And if you do that, do you need a RAID? Any information on this would be EXTREMELY helpful. We have an hv20, and have a few large broadcast projects coming up, and would like to use it, if we can in fact get high quality (not HDV) video off of it. Thanks!

Dale

Kristian Lam · June 20th, 2007, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Backus

Hey there,

I've been looking the intensity for quite some time but there's something that i just can't get clarified. (Great product, btw)

What are the system requirements for running the intensity with the HV20? If you're capturing uncompressed, i imagine a ridiculously fast raid array is necessary. But what about processor and memory requirements? I've heard things (in this thread) about capturing directly to ProRes422? Does that require a screaming processor and a lot of memory to do? And if you do that, do you need a RAID? Any information on this would be EXTREMELY helpful. We have an hv20, and have a few large broadcast projects coming up, and would like to use it, if we can in fact get high quality (not HDV) video off of it. Thanks!

Dale

Uncompressed HD at 1080i60 requires about 120 MB/sec so your media drives must be able to keep up or you'll get dropped frames. A 3-drive SATA RAID0 *should* be able to do this but drives slow down as they get filled so the more drives in your RAID, the better.

If you are to work in Apple ProRes, then you'll need a Mac Pro in order to capture in realtime but since you're using Intensity (which does now work in a G5), that should be sorted. Recommended RAM for HD work is 4GB or more.

Dale Backus · June 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM

Thanks a lot!

Peter Moretti · June 21st, 2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Moretti

Kristian,

How about Windows Movie Maker? (I'm serious; I'd love to use your card, just trying to figure out how.)

Kristian,

BM's website says:

"Intensity is an ideal companion for most video editing software."

"Intensity works with a huge range of software to let you choose the tools you already know how to use, so you don’t need to waste time learning custom software when you want better video quality."

"... use your favorite software, including Final Cut Pro™, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Photoshop, Fusion™ and many more."

What software am I missing to do live streaming HDMI capture with an Intensity card? I use a PC and don't have Premiere. But I do have Avid, Vegas and Windows Movie Maker. What else is there that does work with Intensity?

Thanks much!

Terence Krueger · June 22nd, 2007, 05:51 PM

the intensity comes with its own stand alone capture application. you dont need any editing software at all to be able to capture footage live, preview it, and play it back. you can then bring that footage into any editing software you wish. you can also use cineform hd/hdv to capture from the intensity and recompress as well without any editing software.

terence

Peter Moretti · June 23rd, 2007, 02:58 AM

Terence,

So all this hubub is about using Vegas's capture program instead of Intensity's or Cineform's capture progs? No prob. I could care less what capture prog I use.

I'm leaning towards getting Cineform NEO HD version anyway, this way the data rate will be managable.

Thanks much for the help.

June 14th, 2007, 01:19 AM	#47
Carl Mischke Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 26	Representation Kristian The Blackmagic Decklink, as indicated in the Mediatech Guide, was represented by Apple IMC South Africa. One would have thought ... Carl, Jo'burg

June 14th, 2007, 02:39 PM	#48
Brendan Gallagher Tourist Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2	HDMI monitoring work with Vegas? The BM Intensity cared works well with Premiere offering HDMI out to my 24" BenQ monitor. But I can't seem to get it to work with Vegas. I wonder if anyone who owns this combination has been able to use an HDMI out monitor with Sony Vegas 7e? Curious minds would like to know. Brendan G. killersocks.com

June 15th, 2007, 08:26 AM	#51
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	Vegas support has kind of had to come from the SONY side. You will notice that Vegas only seems to support a certain driver version for Blackmagic cards. This driver is usually built into Vegas so the card driver doesn't get updated until Vegas gets updated. The Intensity card came out after the latest main version of Vegas so the card will not work. Some of the main Blackmagic cards do work as long as they work with the older driver that is supported by Vegas. You need to ask SONY to add support for the Intensity card with at least driver 1.5.

June 20th, 2007, 02:31 PM	#55
Dale Backus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 132	Hey there, I've been looking the intensity for quite some time but there's something that i just can't get clarified. (Great product, btw) What are the system requirements for running the intensity with the HV20? If you're capturing uncompressed, i imagine a ridiculously fast raid array is necessary. But what about processor and memory requirements? I've heard things (in this thread) about capturing directly to ProRes422? Does that require a screaming processor and a lot of memory to do? And if you do that, do you need a RAID? Any information on this would be EXTREMELY helpful. We have an hv20, and have a few large broadcast projects coming up, and would like to use it, if we can in fact get high quality (not HDV) video off of it. Thanks! Dale

June 21st, 2007, 10:58 AM	#57
Dale Backus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 132	Thanks a lot!

June 22nd, 2007, 05:51 PM	#59
Terence Krueger Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 65	the intensity comes with its own stand alone capture application. you dont need any editing software at all to be able to capture footage live, preview it, and play it back. you can then bring that footage into any editing software you wish. you can also use cineform hd/hdv to capture from the intensity and recompress as well without any editing software. terence

June 23rd, 2007, 02:58 AM	#60
Peter Moretti Trustee Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 1,259	Terence, So all this hubub is about using Vegas's capture program instead of Intensity's or Cineform's capture progs? No prob. I could care less what capture prog I use. I'm leaning towards getting Cineform NEO HD version anyway, this way the data rate will be managable. Thanks much for the help.