Canon HV20 and CANON DM-50 samples? at DVinfo.net

Scott Turkington · June 5th, 2007, 11:44 AM

Hey guys, so I'm looking at what shotgun mic I should buy and a few people have suggested Canon's DM-50. It draws power using the advanced accessory shoe which is appealing but I'm wondering if anyone that's using it on the HV20 has any sample audio or video with audio in it while using the mic? What has been their experience using it with the HV20 so far?

Thanks :)

Scott Turkington · June 5th, 2007, 12:18 PM

Does anyone know of a Shotgun mic that has Suspension Shock Mount but also can be powered by the hot shoe on the HV20? Would be nice to have both, less vibration picked up by the mic and no need for extra batteries while shooting video.

Chris Hurd · June 5th, 2007, 12:55 PM

The Canon DM-50 is the *only* microphone that is compatible with the Advanced Accessory Shoe on the Canon HV20 (that is, it's the only mic available that passes audio and power through the electrical contacts of the AAS). It is indeed a shock-mounted mic. Hope this helps,

Scott Turkington · June 5th, 2007, 01:00 PM

Thanks, that was quite helpful. I don't think it's quite as shock absorbent as some of the other mics, but the fact that you don't need extra batteries or cables sounds very appealing.

Scott Turkington · June 5th, 2007, 01:09 PM

I guess the only draw back that I just thougth of is that if you want to use your shotgun mic on a boom pole you can't power it because its only power source is the hot shoe. I guess that's a good reason to get a shotgun mic that's powered by its own power source...

Hmmm haha what to DO!??

Charles Papert · June 5th, 2007, 03:23 PM

I'm not sure I can really see how one would mount a good-sized shotgun on this camera, unless you were using a shoulder mount adaptor of some sort. It would be pretty unwieldy, topheavy and uncomfortable. A boom setup would indeed have to be self powered but there are plenty of ways to do that (a belt pack phantom power source like the PS-1a is an example. I found a great deal on a used Sennheiser 416 a few years back that was T-powered (older 12v standard as opposed to the 48v phantom power that one sees now) but I got the Denecke T power box and more recently an inline adaptor that allows it to work with phantom power. Great setup, but I couldn't imagine trying to mount it

Matthias Krause · June 5th, 2007, 07:51 PM

This was shot with the Canon Mic:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...bctid958579484
This with a Rode NTG-2:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/...bctid958475806
For what it's worth...

Scott Turkington · June 5th, 2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthias Krause

This was shot with the Canon Mic:

So how do you feel about the Canon Mic? Do you notice it picking up the noise of the motor or when push the menu buttons and so forth? Is the audio from the DM-50 better than the built in mic from the HV20?

Thanks alot for the links, was nice to watch something that used the DM-50. The audio sounded pretty good IMO.

Scott

Matthias Krause · June 5th, 2007, 10:09 PM

Scott, it was not me but Carolyn Cole (a Pulitzer price winning photographer) shooting the first film with the Canon mic so I couldn't really tell you. I too think it didn't sound too bad but I never tried the build-in mic. My Rode (with the Rode shock mount) definately does not pick up any motor or other camera noise. I just should have bumped the audio level more. And contrast and saturation for that matter...

June 5th, 2007, 11:44 AM	#1
Scott Turkington Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Homer, Alaska Posts: 36	Canon HV20 and CANON DM-50 samples? Hey guys, so I'm looking at what shotgun mic I should buy and a few people have suggested Canon's DM-50. It draws power using the advanced accessory shoe which is appealing but I'm wondering if anyone that's using it on the HV20 has any sample audio or video with audio in it while using the mic? What has been their experience using it with the HV20 so far? Thanks :) __________________ Canon HV20, Canon Powershot S3 IS, Canon GL2, Archos Gmini 402 Camcorder http://www.SandHillStudio.net

June 5th, 2007, 12:18 PM	#2
Scott Turkington Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Homer, Alaska Posts: 36	Hot Shoe Suspension Shock Mount Mic? Does anyone know of a Shotgun mic that has Suspension Shock Mount but also can be powered by the hot shoe on the HV20? Would be nice to have both, less vibration picked up by the mic and no need for extra batteries while shooting video. __________________ Canon HV20, Canon Powershot S3 IS, Canon GL2, Archos Gmini 402 Camcorder http://www.SandHillStudio.net

June 5th, 2007, 12:55 PM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The Canon DM-50 is the only microphone that is compatible with the Advanced Accessory Shoe on the Canon HV20 (that is, it's the only mic available that passes audio and power through the electrical contacts of the AAS). It is indeed a shock-mounted mic. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 5th, 2007, 01:00 PM	#4
Scott Turkington Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Homer, Alaska Posts: 36	Thanks, that was quite helpful. I don't think it's quite as shock absorbent as some of the other mics, but the fact that you don't need extra batteries or cables sounds very appealing. __________________ Canon HV20, Canon Powershot S3 IS, Canon GL2, Archos Gmini 402 Camcorder http://www.SandHillStudio.net

June 5th, 2007, 01:09 PM	#5
Scott Turkington Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Homer, Alaska Posts: 36	I guess the only draw back that I just thougth of is that if you want to use your shotgun mic on a boom pole you can't power it because its only power source is the hot shoe. I guess that's a good reason to get a shotgun mic that's powered by its own power source... Hmmm haha what to DO!?? __________________ Canon HV20, Canon Powershot S3 IS, Canon GL2, Archos Gmini 402 Camcorder http://www.SandHillStudio.net

June 5th, 2007, 03:23 PM	#6
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	I'm not sure I can really see how one would mount a good-sized shotgun on this camera, unless you were using a shoulder mount adaptor of some sort. It would be pretty unwieldy, topheavy and uncomfortable. A boom setup would indeed have to be self powered but there are plenty of ways to do that (a belt pack phantom power source like the PS-1a is an example. I found a great deal on a used Sennheiser 416 a few years back that was T-powered (older 12v standard as opposed to the 48v phantom power that one sees now) but I got the Denecke T power box and more recently an inline adaptor that allows it to work with phantom power. Great setup, but I couldn't imagine trying to mount it __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

June 5th, 2007, 07:51 PM	#7
Matthias Krause Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 203	This was shot with the Canon Mic: http://link.brightcove.com/services/...bctid958579484 This with a Rode NTG-2: http://link.brightcove.com/services/...bctid958475806 For what it's worth...

June 5th, 2007, 10:09 PM	#9
Matthias Krause Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 203	Scott, it was not me but Carolyn Cole (a Pulitzer price winning photographer) shooting the first film with the Canon mic so I couldn't really tell you. I too think it didn't sound too bad but I never tried the build-in mic. My Rode (with the Rode shock mount) definately does not pick up any motor or other camera noise. I just should have bumped the audio level more. And contrast and saturation for that matter...