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August 1st, 2007, 10:56 AM
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okay so i was messing around with the app a little more today and just to question something, i put a full res XL2 video i did awhile back which is a 24p file i went over and low and behold the telecine option was an option!
So what the hell, it lets me choose it on 24p clips but not 29.97 clips? Just to make sure, i am using the HDV1080i60 easy setup to capture, i go and try to convert the file in the capture scratch folder correct? do i need to do anything extra to the file before putting it into JES? Thanks |
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August 3rd, 2007, 07:49 AM
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Anyone know what might be going on???????
Are there any other programs for us mac users that we could try out besides this because i cant seem to get that method to work with my footage |
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August 3rd, 2007, 12:23 PM
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have you reinstalled JES, like i said earlier yours looks different than mine, i'm using 3.1.2. your input and project tabs are reversed from mine. can you take a screen shot of each tab in JES as you work through it, ie. the input tab just after you drop in the file you want to convert, then the project tab when you're changing the settings etc... also of note if you have the "progressive" box checked in the input tab it won't allow you to inverse telecine
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August 3rd, 2007, 01:49 PM
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I have the newest version of JES, i installed it on July 31st!
Here are pics off all of my tabs: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...icture1-19.png http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture3-1.png http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...f/Picture4.png Hope this helps you guys, thanks for taking time out and trying to help. Mike |
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August 3rd, 2007, 05:17 PM
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ok i think i've got a handle on this now, it appears that you're using the 2.7.4 version for os x 10.3 and under... if you're running 10.4 you need to dl the 3.2.1 version linked below:
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ejeschot/JES_...acer_3.2.1.zip after running though the jaguar version it appears that it has issues with removing pulldown on hd resolution files regardless of their framerates since it sounds like you're capturing HDV in FCP i'm assuming you're running tiger, so you should be able to dl the 3.2.1 version and everything should work as advertised... personally i no longer use JES because i've upgraded to FCS 2 which has a pulldown remover in compressor hope that helps |
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August 3rd, 2007, 06:24 PM
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Humm, thank you man it was very confusing as I have been using it for quite a while and couldn't figure out why he was having issues.
It would be nice to have ProRes422 HQ Support from the DIRECT dropdown menu. I am doing it via the Export menu and it's unreal how you can abuse this format in CC (POST)
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August 3rd, 2007, 07:55 PM
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August 3rd, 2007, 07:58 PM
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Combination of both, I need to learn to use Color as it looks like it has potential, I was surprised about Adobe Photoshop CS3 and how you can work with video there as well.
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August 4th, 2007, 02:48 AM
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I've used three alternatives for 24P (from the HV20's 60i stream):
a) JES b) After Effects and today c) FCS2 Compressor Results: A - JES is good - works well, but leaves some artifacts from the deinterlace. works well though! Great for most projects - most people won't be able to tell. B - Cleanest result yet. Probably a slight reduction in sharpness, but, wow - the image is as smooth as butter. Took forever to render, even on a Quad Mac Pro. C - WORST results yet! Wow.. everything went macroblocky.. what the hell's up with that? It was very fast, and the cadence is correct, but the image is worse than the other two! Hardly what I expected.. (this is exporting to Prores 422 HQ!!) Am I doing something wrong? I dragged, dropped and set the settings as high as I could. I'd expect Compressor would 'beat' JES, but not so.
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August 4th, 2007, 05:21 AM
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I am confused again: A) Deinterlace? 24p? (Shouldn't you be doing Inverse telecine on 24p material?)
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August 4th, 2007, 09:06 AM
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YES! It was the version of the software i got it to work, thank you so much! you all rock!
Mike :) |
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August 5th, 2007, 11:47 AM
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ok i have one more question, could you capture the footage and edit it in a 60 timeline then send ur master export to jes and telecine what u edited or is it better to just telecine the captured stuff and edit like that?
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August 5th, 2007, 03:32 PM
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I should note, these artifacts are there EVEN when capturing uncompressed footage and then running it through JES. But hey, it's free, beat Compressor so far, and gives me progressive. GO JES!
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August 6th, 2007, 09:34 AM
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