HV20 and my DVX100 XLR connecters at DVinfo.net

Martin Newsome · May 10th, 2007, 07:50 AM

Im wondering if i could use the xlr connecters of my dvx100 to plug in an XLR mic with my HV20 by pluging the mic into my dvx100 and then pumping the audio out the throught the earphone plug into the mic input of the HV20 would i then get balance output from my DVX100 with out buying a beactech adapter ???????????

Peter J Alessandria · May 10th, 2007, 10:07 AM

Woah, Marty chill. ;-)
The Beacktek DXA-2s is a good solution for the HV20 but if you don't want to spend $180 try one of these first: http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2062443&cp $14.99
You'll also need a 1/4" to 1/8" (mini) adapter. $5

Martin Newsome · May 10th, 2007, 10:18 AM

thanx peter how good will this work for sound with a nice mic on a boom pole running into the hv20 ? will i get about the same results ??

Patrick Bower · May 10th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Your're right that your can use long mic cables to the DVX, which will be balanced. You can even use phantom powered condenser microphones. As cameras go, the DVX100 has exceptionally good audio specifications, i.e pre-amps and AD conversion.
However, it is possible that the headphone output is, in comparison, crap. Also I don't know whether it is the right level or impedence for a microphone input.

An option, would be to actually use the DVX100 to record the sound. DV audio is a higher quality specification than HDV audio, and all the audio circuits in the DVX100 are likely to be better than the ones in the HV20. So, for any microphone, the DVX100 will always sound better than the HV20.

The only disadvantage, would be that you would have to use your NLE to put the DVX recorded sound back with the HV20 picture.

Patrick

Peter J Alessandria · May 10th, 2007, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Newsome

thanx peter how good will this work for sound with a nice mic on a boom pole running into the hv20 ? will i get about the same results ??

I tested the setup briefly with my AT897 and other than a slight loss of gain (volume) it worked pretty well. (You can just boost the audio levels in the HV20 to compensate.) Of course your mic needs to be powered (battery) as there is no phantom power with this setup (same is true of the Beachtek DXA-2s - you need powered mics).

If you really want to drag your DVX around while shooting with your HV20, you can just use the AV output on the DVX rather than headphone jack (you can get an RCA to mini plug adapter at any RadioShack.)

Of course, the Beachtek is still the way to go on this - very clean and convenient.

John Hotze · May 10th, 2007, 02:43 PM

Wow. This thread is getting pretty wild. Record audio on an old camcorder and record video on the new camcorder to avoid an adaptor like the Beachtek or the XLR Pro. Then import the audio into an editor and try and sync it with the video. Way out. Or drag along another camcorder to act as an XLR converter for a mic. Wild.

I'd also like to see where it states that DV audio is better than HDV audio. That's a new one for me. I'm collecting and researching data by the way. I'm new to HDV and I'm on a steep uphill learning trail.

BTW. I'm carrying my older two Canon camcorders along on all my shoots as a backup and possibly a second & third angle shoot if I have some friends willing to help.

One thing I caught Peter was if you used a dynamic XLR mic, you wouldn't have to worry about phantom power.

I wanna hear how Marty plays this one out.

Patrick Bower · May 10th, 2007, 05:40 PM

"I'd also like to see where it states that DV audio is better than HDV audio."

Look at this thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&highlight=384

Patrick

John Hotze · May 11th, 2007, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Bower

"I'd also like to see where it states that DV audio is better than HDV audio."

Look at this thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&highlight=384

Patrick

Thanks Pat. After reading through the thread, I'm relieved to know that I will never notice the difference of the audio I capture in my new HV20 when compared to the audio I captured with my older Caon SD camcorders.

May 10th, 2007, 07:50 AM	#1
Martin Newsome Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: new york , usa Posts: 45	HV20 and my DVX100 XLR connecters Im wondering if i could use the xlr connecters of my dvx100 to plug in an XLR mic with my HV20 by pluging the mic into my dvx100 and then pumping the audio out the throught the earphone plug into the mic input of the HV20 would i then get balance output from my DVX100 with out buying a beactech adapter ???????????

May 10th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#6
John Hotze Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri Posts: 129	wild combinations Wow. This thread is getting pretty wild. Record audio on an old camcorder and record video on the new camcorder to avoid an adaptor like the Beachtek or the XLR Pro. Then import the audio into an editor and try and sync it with the video. Way out. Or drag along another camcorder to act as an XLR converter for a mic. Wild. I'd also like to see where it states that DV audio is better than HDV audio. That's a new one for me. I'm collecting and researching data by the way. I'm new to HDV and I'm on a steep uphill learning trail. BTW. I'm carrying my older two Canon camcorders along on all my shoots as a backup and possibly a second & third angle shoot if I have some friends willing to help. One thing I caught Peter was if you used a dynamic XLR mic, you wouldn't have to worry about phantom power. I wanna hear how Marty plays this one out.

May 10th, 2007, 10:07 AM	#2
Peter J Alessandria Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 293	Woah, Marty chill. ;-) The Beacktek DXA-2s is a good solution for the HV20 but if you don't want to spend $180 try one of these first: http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2062443&cp $14.99 You'll also need a 1/4" to 1/8" (mini) adapter. $5

May 10th, 2007, 10:18 AM	#3
Martin Newsome Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: new york , usa Posts: 45	thanx peter how good will this work for sound with a nice mic on a boom pole running into the hv20 ? will i get about the same results ??

May 10th, 2007, 11:43 AM	#4
Patrick Bower Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 126	Your're right that your can use long mic cables to the DVX, which will be balanced. You can even use phantom powered condenser microphones. As cameras go, the DVX100 has exceptionally good audio specifications, i.e pre-amps and AD conversion. However, it is possible that the headphone output is, in comparison, crap. Also I don't know whether it is the right level or impedence for a microphone input. An option, would be to actually use the DVX100 to record the sound. DV audio is a higher quality specification than HDV audio, and all the audio circuits in the DVX100 are likely to be better than the ones in the HV20. So, for any microphone, the DVX100 will always sound better than the HV20. The only disadvantage, would be that you would have to use your NLE to put the DVX recorded sound back with the HV20 picture. Patrick

May 10th, 2007, 05:40 PM	#7
Patrick Bower Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 126	"I'd also like to see where it states that DV audio is better than HDV audio." Look at this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&highlight=384 Patrick