Intensity doesn't support HV20

Glenn Thomas · April 25th, 2007, 04:53 AM

As far as I know BlackMagic are in Melbourne, right? So maybe that's why they haven't been able to test the HV20, as they've only just become available here.

Derek Green · April 25th, 2007, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Thomas

As far as I know BlackMagic are in Melbourne, right? So maybe that's why they haven't been able to test the HV20, as they've only just become available here.

Some good news to report. They now have a HV20 for testing and are investigating. As Heinz stated, Convergent got their HD-Connect working with it so it shouldn't be a HDCP issue. It'll probably be a little while but I have faith BM will eventually be able to update their drivers for the card to make it work. *X-fingers*

Kristian Lam · April 25th, 2007, 07:34 PM

Hi guys,

Yes, we're gotten hold of the camera and are looking into it. Some of our guys are still over in the US and will be back really soon and it's something we're jumping onto. In fact, we were trying to buy this camera in Vegas before we left but that did not work out so things got delayed by a bit.

Bob Thompson · April 25th, 2007, 09:28 PM

Thanks for the very positive response from Blackmagic (Kristan Lam), I for one am waiting for a positive answer about the Intensity card before purchasing the HV20.

Bob Thompson

Hong Kong

Taj Jackson · April 25th, 2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Thompson

Thanks for the very positive response from Blackmagic (Kristan Lam), I for one am waiting for a positive answer about the Intensity card before purchasing the HV20.

Bob Thompson

Hong Kong

I second that. Once I here you guys support it, I am buying both the HV20 camera and the Intensity card. :-)

Robert Ducon · April 25th, 2007, 11:36 PM

Intensity Option #2

The NEW version, with Component In (as well the existing HDMI).

I have a Decklink HD Extreme, the higher end cousin (w/o HDMI) and I just captured some beautiful Uncompressed HD live to my Mac Pro today.

Component HD video is a very real, very professional method, and totally an option now. If I didn't have my current card, I'd order the new Intensity today.

Daymon Hoffman · April 26th, 2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Taj Jackson

I second that. Once I here you guys support it, I am buying both the HV20 camera and the Intensity card. :-)

Ditto :)

If what Robert Ducon says is true, i will buy that one if its not to expensive compared to the HDMI only card. As i havent purchased mine yet. *goes to their website to check it out* :)

PS. Wow its an aussie card! I didnt know that. AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE! Kristian, thanks for your comments! Very Nice.

Roy Colquitt · April 26th, 2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Lam

Hi guys,

Yes, we're gotten hold of the camera and are looking into it. Some of our guys are still over in the US and will be back really soon and it's something we're jumping onto. In fact, we were trying to buy this camera in Vegas before we left but that did not work out so things got delayed by a bit.

Yes. Thank you for that initial information.

I already have the Intensity card and my HV20 was just delivered yesterday evening. I bought it, in large part, specifically to use as an HDMI feeder deck.

If I had seen this thread subject, I wouldn't have ordered the HV20.

I hope you'll use this thread and/or forum for further updates on the situation.

Robert Ducon · April 26th, 2007, 12:07 PM

It sure does exist! Intensity Pro.

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

Look: HDMI isn't the only option! Now you can import footage from any other HD source as well as NTSC (for those old Hi8 and VHS tapes you wanted to convert to digital).

Also, if it is true that HDCP is the cause for the problem, then it can only be assumed this is the way that most new cameras will be, and so Component will be the only option then. So.

So this new Intensity Pro is the best deal out there! Best you don't just rely on the HDMI option. Show me another card that does HDMI and Component uncompressed for the same price point of $349 US.

Devon Lyon · April 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM

I checked out the new Intensity Pro because it is a great value if it has both HDMI and Component capture. The picture next to the "Intensity Pro" lable looked like it only had HDMI capture capability. Where would the component cables plug?

Also, what is the limit in length of component cables when capturing live before there starts to be a problem? Thanks!

Jeff DeMaagd · April 29th, 2007, 10:11 PM

Wouldn't using analog capture add another level of signal degradation?

Roy Colquitt · May 3rd, 2007, 05:21 PM

Has anyone seen or heard any updated information on this?

Kristian Lam · May 3rd, 2007, 06:15 PM

Sorry guys. No good news as yet. We're still working on it.

Roy Colquitt · May 3rd, 2007, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian Lam

Sorry guys. No good news as yet. We're still working on it.

Thanks, Kristian. Still working on it is better than not.

I didn't know when you might get back, so I posted on the COW too.

Mike Schell · May 5th, 2007, 03:03 PM

We have a Canon HV20 working fine with our HD-Connect MI and nanoConnect boxes, which do HDMI -> HD/SD-SDI. The HV20 produces a beautiful image, even better if you run it in live-capture mode.

Regarding analog vs digital capture, there is quite a dramatic difference in the quality. Check out the video that JVC produced (available from our web site), which sweeps between analog and digital capture (thru the nanoConnect) off the JVC HD50 deck. The differences are very obvious.

Mike Schell
Convergent Design

April 25th, 2007, 07:34 PM	#18
Kristian Lam Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 41	Hi guys, Yes, we're gotten hold of the camera and are looking into it. Some of our guys are still over in the US and will be back really soon and it's something we're jumping onto. In fact, we were trying to buy this camera in Vegas before we left but that did not work out so things got delayed by a bit. __________________ Blackmagic Design

April 25th, 2007, 11:36 PM	#21
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	Or... Intensity Option #2 The NEW version, with Component In (as well the existing HDMI). I have a Decklink HD Extreme, the higher end cousin (w/o HDMI) and I just captured some beautiful Uncompressed HD live to my Mac Pro today. Component HD video is a very real, very professional method, and totally an option now. If I didn't have my current card, I'd order the new Intensity today. __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

April 26th, 2007, 12:07 PM	#24
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	It sure does exist! Intensity Pro. http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/ Look: HDMI isn't the only option! Now you can import footage from any other HD source as well as NTSC (for those old Hi8 and VHS tapes you wanted to convert to digital). Also, if it is true that HDCP is the cause for the problem, then it can only be assumed this is the way that most new cameras will be, and so Component will be the only option then. So. So this new Intensity Pro is the best deal out there! Best you don't just rely on the HDMI option. Show me another card that does HDMI and Component uncompressed for the same price point of $349 US. __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

April 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM	#25
Devon Lyon Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 213	I checked out the new Intensity Pro because it is a great value if it has both HDMI and Component capture. The picture next to the "Intensity Pro" lable looked like it only had HDMI capture capability. Where would the component cables plug? Also, what is the limit in length of component cables when capturing live before there starts to be a problem? Thanks! __________________ Lyon Films www.LyonFilms.com;

May 3rd, 2007, 06:15 PM	#28
Kristian Lam Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 41	Sorry guys. No good news as yet. We're still working on it. __________________ Blackmagic Design

April 25th, 2007, 04:53 AM	#16
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	As far as I know BlackMagic are in Melbourne, right? So maybe that's why they haven't been able to test the HV20, as they've only just become available here.

April 25th, 2007, 09:28 PM	#19
Bob Thompson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 340	Thanks for the very positive response from Blackmagic (Kristan Lam), I for one am waiting for a positive answer about the Intensity card before purchasing the HV20. Bob Thompson Hong Kong

April 29th, 2007, 10:11 PM	#26
Jeff DeMaagd Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI, USA Posts: 202	Wouldn't using analog capture add another level of signal degradation?

May 3rd, 2007, 05:21 PM	#27
Roy Colquitt Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Columbia Maryland Posts: 40	Has anyone seen or heard any updated information on this?

May 5th, 2007, 03:03 PM	#30
Mike Schell Convergent Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 869	We have a Canon HV20 working fine with our HD-Connect MI and nanoConnect boxes, which do HDMI -> HD/SD-SDI. The HV20 produces a beautiful image, even better if you run it in live-capture mode. Regarding analog vs digital capture, there is quite a dramatic difference in the quality. Check out the video that JVC produced (available from our web site), which sweeps between analog and digital capture (thru the nanoConnect) off the JVC HD50 deck. The differences are very obvious. Mike Schell Convergent Design