Intensity doesn't support HV20

Serge Victorovich · May 27th, 2007, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terence Krueger

it has no pci express, or expansion capability at all.

Really bad if so...
Do you have link to specification of this mobo?

Terence Krueger · May 27th, 2007, 03:25 PM

http://global.aopen.com/products_spec.aspx

basically, the acer "mini pc" line uses a proprietary motherboard form factor. it only fits in the case it comes with and has no internal expansion.

a-open also make mini itx boards, which is a "standard" form factor, and can allow for usually one card slot of some kind. so far ther have not updated or announced any i965 mini itx boards, but with the mini pc out now, i cant imagine it will be long before they do. most likely the new board will have one x1 slot like the old version, but with updated things like sata2 and such. if they were smart, they would make it and x4 slot and include an expresscard slot as well (the chipset supperts this), but i doubt they will.

terence

Mark Keck · May 30th, 2007, 08:30 PM

Howdy folks.. first post.

I've been lurking here for quite some time now. Being a video runt, there is not much that I can offer yet. But thanks all for the education... I've learned more here than I can possible thank you for.

Anyway, I've got a little good news. I've been holding off getting an Intensity card and just couldn't resist anymore emailing Kristian Lam of Blackmagic for an update. With her permission, here is what she said:

"I don't want to give any dates right now but we're very close to releasing support. There's just some last minute kinks we need to iron out. Feel free to let the guys on forum know about this."

So for all you folks looking for an Intensity update fix, I hope this helps.

Oh, by the way, I'm looking at this for doing some stop motion capture using the HV20. So if anyone wants to through me a bone on that I'll do my best to catch it.

Mark

Roy Colquitt · May 31st, 2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Keck

...just couldn't resist anymore emailing Kristian Lam of Blackmagic for an update. With her permission, here is what she said:

It great to have another update; even better that it's still positive. Thanks for posting it.

Apologies all around if I'm wrong, but I pretty sure Kristian is a he, not a she.

Mark Keck · May 31st, 2007, 05:17 PM

"Apologies all around if I'm wrong, but I pretty sure Kristian is a he, not a she."

Oh, you are so right. At least that's what Kristian just told me. Excuss me while I wipe the egg off my face. Kristian, my applogies!!.

Mark

Wes Vasher · May 31st, 2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Keck

Oh, by the way, I'm looking at this for doing some stop motion capture using the HV20. So if anyone wants to through me a bone on that I'll do my best to catch it.

Mark, check out my thread below where I make my case for using the still-photo mode of the HV20 for doing stop-motion.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=91860

Mark Keck · June 1st, 2007, 04:42 AM

Thanks Wes, thought I had read all the stop motion threads but missed this one. Looks like I have more searching to do. But this is all off topic, so I'll go over my reasoning in a different thread when I've got my act together.

Ordered the intensity card with the anticipation of the new driver release, should be in next week. I see many more applications other than stop motion fo me... some of them pretty far-fetched... I'll just have to see where it takes me.

Mark

Wes Vasher · June 1st, 2007, 07:20 AM

Is there a way to capture single frames from the HDMI using Intensity? The nice thing about using the digital still is you get the entire sensor plus you are mobile and I believe the stills are 4:2:2 plus you can use the remote to take an "exposure" which keeps from moving the camera.

Mark Keck · June 1st, 2007, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes Vasher

Is there a way to capture single frames from the HDMI using Intensity?

Yup. At the moment I can't go into all of it due to a few pesky discloser clauses. But once I have all the peices together and can talk about it, I'll let you know.

Mark

Wes Vasher · June 1st, 2007, 11:29 AM

Sounds good. I use BTV Pro for DV stop motion as that works really well at capturing single frames from a DV stream to any format. It also has onion skinning which is useful. Bypassing the JPEG compression of the digital still mode of the HV20 would be a good thing, since you are in a studio when shooting stop-motion usually anyway, being tied to an Intensity box isn't that big of an issue.

Charles Papert · June 1st, 2007, 02:28 PM

Hi chaps:

I've re-read most of the posts but my computer knowledge base stops at a certain point and you guys are thankfully beyond that!

I have a shoot in mid-June that will be primarily Varicam and cut on FCP but we have a couple of shots that will involve a Doggiecam style body mount on a young actor. I had thought it would be interesting to use the HV20 as the camera for this, and would like to record the output of the camera out to a better format than HDV (might as well do DVCPROHD as that is what the rest of the footage will be).

At this point, what are my functional options? By functional I mean ready to go within maybe a week, not "soon, hopefully". Analog component out?

Alex Raskin · June 1st, 2007, 02:40 PM

Charles,

Analog component out to DeckLink Multibridge HD (or whatever they call it nowadays) will, of course, work with any camera that outputs analog signal.

OR, use Sony V1U and HDMI capture. V1U is not that much larger than HV20, and does not have any issues with HDMI capture to PC.

I have just re-designed my HD capture PC from analog in (Z1U analog -> HD-SDI -> PC uncompressed capture) to HDMI in (V1U HDMI out -> BlackMagic Intensity capture card -> PC capture into Cineform Aspect HD codec on-the-fly.)

Works beautifully in the limited tests I just completed yesterday.

Terence Krueger · June 1st, 2007, 11:09 PM

just make sure you have a long high quality cable, because at the moment, you need to tether the camera to a full sized PC.

terence

Charles Papert · June 2nd, 2007, 07:22 PM

I'm going to start a new thread on this as I'm not sure if everyone who is working to make this happen is reading this one--thanks for those who chimed in already.

Augusto Areva · June 5th, 2007, 01:39 PM

Any news on this driver update to make the camera able to connect to the intensity?

I got the camera thinking it was going to be able to connect to the intensity card.

May 30th, 2007, 08:30 PM	#153
Mark Keck Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 123	Getting closer Howdy folks.. first post. I've been lurking here for quite some time now. Being a video runt, there is not much that I can offer yet. But thanks all for the education... I've learned more here than I can possible thank you for. Anyway, I've got a little good news. I've been holding off getting an Intensity card and just couldn't resist anymore emailing Kristian Lam of Blackmagic for an update. With her permission, here is what she said: "I don't want to give any dates right now but we're very close to releasing support. There's just some last minute kinks we need to iron out. Feel free to let the guys on forum know about this." So for all you folks looking for an Intensity update fix, I hope this helps. Oh, by the way, I'm looking at this for doing some stop motion capture using the HV20. So if anyone wants to through me a bone on that I'll do my best to catch it. Mark

June 1st, 2007, 07:20 AM	#158
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Is there a way to capture single frames from the HDMI using Intensity? The nice thing about using the digital still is you get the entire sensor plus you are mobile and I believe the stills are 4:2:2 plus you can use the remote to take an "exposure" which keeps from moving the camera. __________________ Clips \| Stills

June 1st, 2007, 11:29 AM	#160
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Sounds good. I use BTV Pro for DV stop motion as that works really well at capturing single frames from a DV stream to any format. It also has onion skinning which is useful. Bypassing the JPEG compression of the digital still mode of the HV20 would be a good thing, since you are in a studio when shooting stop-motion usually anyway, being tied to an Intensity box isn't that big of an issue. __________________ Clips \| Stills

June 1st, 2007, 02:28 PM	#161
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Hi chaps: I've re-read most of the posts but my computer knowledge base stops at a certain point and you guys are thankfully beyond that! I have a shoot in mid-June that will be primarily Varicam and cut on FCP but we have a couple of shots that will involve a Doggiecam style body mount on a young actor. I had thought it would be interesting to use the HV20 as the camera for this, and would like to record the output of the camera out to a better format than HDV (might as well do DVCPROHD as that is what the rest of the footage will be). At this point, what are my functional options? By functional I mean ready to go within maybe a week, not "soon, hopefully". Analog component out? __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

June 2nd, 2007, 07:22 PM	#164
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	I'm going to start a new thread on this as I'm not sure if everyone who is working to make this happen is reading this one--thanks for those who chimed in already. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

May 27th, 2007, 03:25 PM	#152
Terence Krueger Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 65	http://global.aopen.com/products_spec.aspx basically, the acer "mini pc" line uses a proprietary motherboard form factor. it only fits in the case it comes with and has no internal expansion. a-open also make mini itx boards, which is a "standard" form factor, and can allow for usually one card slot of some kind. so far ther have not updated or announced any i965 mini itx boards, but with the mini pc out now, i cant imagine it will be long before they do. most likely the new board will have one x1 slot like the old version, but with updated things like sata2 and such. if they were smart, they would make it and x4 slot and include an expresscard slot as well (the chipset supperts this), but i doubt they will. terence

May 31st, 2007, 05:17 PM	#155
Mark Keck Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 123	"Apologies all around if I'm wrong, but I pretty sure Kristian is a he, not a she." Oh, you are so right. At least that's what Kristian just told me. Excuss me while I wipe the egg off my face. Kristian, my applogies!!. Mark

June 1st, 2007, 04:42 AM	#157
Mark Keck Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 123	Thanks Wes, thought I had read all the stop motion threads but missed this one. Looks like I have more searching to do. But this is all off topic, so I'll go over my reasoning in a different thread when I've got my act together. Ordered the intensity card with the anticipation of the new driver release, should be in next week. I see many more applications other than stop motion fo me... some of them pretty far-fetched... I'll just have to see where it takes me. Mark

June 1st, 2007, 02:40 PM	#162
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Charles, Analog component out to DeckLink Multibridge HD (or whatever they call it nowadays) will, of course, work with any camera that outputs analog signal. OR, use Sony V1U and HDMI capture. V1U is not that much larger than HV20, and does not have any issues with HDMI capture to PC. I have just re-designed my HD capture PC from analog in (Z1U analog -> HD-SDI -> PC uncompressed capture) to HDMI in (V1U HDMI out -> BlackMagic Intensity capture card -> PC capture into Cineform Aspect HD codec on-the-fly.) Works beautifully in the limited tests I just completed yesterday.

June 1st, 2007, 11:09 PM	#163
Terence Krueger Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 65	just make sure you have a long high quality cable, because at the moment, you need to tether the camera to a full sized PC. terence

June 5th, 2007, 01:39 PM	#165
Augusto Areva Tourist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 3	Any news on this driver update to make the camera able to connect to the intensity? I got the camera thinking it was going to be able to connect to the intensity card.