Will Canon Replace the Hv10 at DVinfo.net

Terry Johnson · April 23rd, 2007, 02:37 PM

It has been reported that Canon is discontinuing the HV10. Is there any information as to whether they will replace it with a new model having the same form factor.

Chris Hurd · April 23rd, 2007, 02:44 PM

Same form factor, any time soon? Doubtful. Later on? Perhaps maybe so, since that form factor has been around for awhile (it's strongly based on the old Optura 300, 400, 500 and 600 series camcorders).

Ken Ross · April 23rd, 2007, 02:45 PM

I can't see why they would. Most people will opt for the HV20 given the choice between the two, so I don't see the incentive for Canon to develop a new vertical format HDV cam. They got too much criticism the first time around. I still love the HV10, but I do prefer the form factor of the HV20.

Terry Johnson · April 23rd, 2007, 05:09 PM

The volume of the hv20 is 1.5 times that of the hv10. I need a small hdv camera to hang around my neck when canoeing. I use my XL-H1 when on shore but it's not something that you can use on the water very well. I'm sure there are many activities where the size of the HV10 makes it an ideal solution.

Glen Kim · April 23rd, 2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Ross

Most people will opt for the HV20 given the choice between the two, so I don't see the incentive for Canon to develop a new vertical format HDV cam.

One thing to consider is that Canon is a Japanese manufacturer so the Japanese market is very important. Japanese people like devices small and compact.

Personally, I liked the vertical form factor of the HV10 and would welcome a camcorder with a similar form factor in the future.

Ken Ross · April 23rd, 2007, 06:29 PM

Guys, that's why I said 'most' people. I'm sure some still prefer the smaller size of the HV10 despite its vertical design. I'm just not sure there's enough buyers at this point to motivate Canon to build a successor...certainly not in the very near future. But Glen & Terry, I certainly understand what you're saying.

Rune Austefjord · April 25th, 2007, 11:39 AM

The Optura models are in turn based on something like the Sony DCR-PC1, 2 and 3, later superceeded by the DCR-PC100, 110 and other Sony models which were also upright design.
I bought a Sony DCR-PC3 back in 1999, and liked the upright design. Sold it when I got the HV10. I will probably keep buying uprights for a while.

Paulo Teixeira · April 25th, 2007, 11:52 AM

Canon will be releasing a consumer AVCHD camcorder and who knows, they may take the HV10 design. If not, then it will probably be a slimed down HV20. It will compete against the Sony CX7 and the Panasonic SD3.

Terry Johnson · May 15th, 2007, 04:08 PM

It looks like the HR10 may be the HV10 replacement as the name seems to inply. I wonder what is gained and lost by going to the AVCHD encoding and what the cost and recording time will be for the 3 inch DVD's.

Ian G. Thompson · May 15th, 2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry Johnson

It looks like the HR10 may be the HV10 replacement as the name seems to inply. I wonder what is gained and lost by going to the AVCHD encoding and what the cost and recording time will be for the 3 inch DVD's.

I believe at its best quality you can get around 27 minutes of video per CD.

Luc Fender · May 15th, 2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian G. Thompson

I believe at its best quality you can get around 27 minutes of video per CD.

The HR10 is not vertical so I don't think that replaces the HV10.
I wonder how people use the HV10 start/stop button. I don't have big hands but in the store I had trouble using that button. Would you have to use typically 2 hands? And if so do you see the movement recorded everytime you hit start/stop?

Joe Busch · May 15th, 2007, 07:05 PM

I have big hands too, but I film for 7-10 minutes then turn it off... turn it back on... so it's not as big of a deal...

John Hotze · May 15th, 2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry Johnson

The volume of the hv20 is 1.5 times that of the hv10. I need a small hdv camera to hang around my neck when canoeing. I use my XL-H1 when on shore but it's not something that you can use on the water very well. I'm sure there are many activities where the size of the HV10 makes it an ideal solution.

Hopefully you aren't canoeing in white water alone and tapeing. I put my camcorder on a tripod alone in my canoe just in front of me & tape while I'm paddlin' but I'm not on white water. I might be a little cautious as I go though some rapids but if I saw I had to do some serious maneuvering through some pretty choppy water I pull it off the pod and stick it in my bag. I'd Leave footage of the more serious rapids for when someone else can steer the canoe & I can film, excuse me, tape.

Have fun.

April 23rd, 2007, 02:37 PM	#1
Terry Johnson New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19	Will Canon Replace the Hv10 It has been reported that Canon is discontinuing the HV10. Is there any information as to whether they will replace it with a new model having the same form factor.

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May 15th, 2007, 04:08 PM	#9
Terry Johnson New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19	HV10 vs HR10 It looks like the HR10 may be the HV10 replacement as the name seems to inply. I wonder what is gained and lost by going to the AVCHD encoding and what the cost and recording time will be for the 3 inch DVD's.

April 23rd, 2007, 02:45 PM	#3
Ken Ross Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,945	I can't see why they would. Most people will opt for the HV20 given the choice between the two, so I don't see the incentive for Canon to develop a new vertical format HDV cam. They got too much criticism the first time around. I still love the HV10, but I do prefer the form factor of the HV20.

April 23rd, 2007, 05:09 PM	#4
Terry Johnson New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 19	The volume of the hv20 is 1.5 times that of the hv10. I need a small hdv camera to hang around my neck when canoeing. I use my XL-H1 when on shore but it's not something that you can use on the water very well. I'm sure there are many activities where the size of the HV10 makes it an ideal solution.

April 23rd, 2007, 06:29 PM	#6
Ken Ross Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,945	Guys, that's why I said 'most' people. I'm sure some still prefer the smaller size of the HV10 despite its vertical design. I'm just not sure there's enough buyers at this point to motivate Canon to build a successor...certainly not in the very near future. But Glen & Terry, I certainly understand what you're saying.

April 25th, 2007, 11:39 AM	#7
Rune Austefjord Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 43	The Optura models are in turn based on something like the Sony DCR-PC1, 2 and 3, later superceeded by the DCR-PC100, 110 and other Sony models which were also upright design. I bought a Sony DCR-PC3 back in 1999, and liked the upright design. Sold it when I got the HV10. I will probably keep buying uprights for a while.

May 15th, 2007, 07:05 PM	#12
Joe Busch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 398	I have big hands too, but I film for 7-10 minutes then turn it off... turn it back on... so it's not as big of a deal...