PAL HV20 footage? at DVinfo.net

Fergus Anderson · March 26th, 2007, 10:23 AM

Hi guys just wondered if anyone has managed to source a PAL HV20 yet? Canon have told my supplier mid april here.

Im desperate to see some 25p footage!! (and figure out if its easier to process as 25p in Vegas)

Lee Wilson · March 26th, 2007, 12:48 PM

You would simply process it as you would 50i footage.

Fergus Anderson · March 26th, 2007, 01:27 PM

Oh I guess so since each "field" is an actual fact a full progressive 1440x1080 frame? I wonder if rendering to say 25p wm9 will work out ok or will it try and blend the fields together?

Enea Lanzarone · March 26th, 2007, 08:25 PM

There's definetely no need for special processing, i.e. deinterlacing and blending fields. Converting to 25p WM9 will work out ok as it is. If you decide to set your project settings to progressive frames (or "No fields", I don't know what it's called in Vegas), you have to know that transitions or text effects (has been discussed here earlier) will also be rendered progressively and might not look as smooth as in a interlaced project. But you might as well leave the field settings as they are. I often mix progressive with interlaced footage in an interlaced project in Adobe Premiere and it works well.

Yow Siang · March 26th, 2007, 09:24 PM

same here but desperately looking to BUY a HV20Pal.. but cant find any local store selling it yet and not even online stores...sighhh..

Lee Wilson · March 27th, 2007, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fergus Anderson

Oh I guess so since each "field" is an actual fact a full progressive 1440x1080 frame?

No !

Each field is half a full progressive 1440x1080 frame !!!!!!!

Two fields (temporally identical) make a single progressive frame !!!

[pull his hair out] :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fergus Anderson

I wonder if rendering to say 25p wm9 will work out ok or will it try and blend the fields together?

I am not sure how WM9 works, why not just render it as a standard file, why the need to make it a 25p file?, it has no temporal difference between the fields so just render it as it is.

What I mean by that is, if you render it as a progressive 25p file (with no de-interlacing) it will be progressive, if you render it as a 50i file it will still be progressive !

Lee Wilson · March 27th, 2007, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enea Lanzarone

There's definetely no need for special processing, i.e. deinterlacing and blending fields

Yep !! Agreed.

Alastair Brown · March 27th, 2007, 05:46 AM

I'm also keeping an eye on the horison for the first PAL HV-20's. Nothing on the radar yet.

John Millar · March 27th, 2007, 06:05 AM

i too am awaiting for this little monster in pal land any idea when it
will be arriving as it was supposed to be shipping in april in usa and
turned up early maybe it will be same in pal land and will appear pretty
soon heard dates of 7th 17th april but will have to wait and see ?

March 26th, 2007, 10:23 AM	#1
Fergus Anderson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 321	PAL HV20 footage? Hi guys just wondered if anyone has managed to source a PAL HV20 yet? Canon have told my supplier mid april here. Im desperate to see some 25p footage!! (and figure out if its easier to process as 25p in Vegas)

March 26th, 2007, 12:48 PM	#2
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	You would simply process it as you would 50i footage.

March 26th, 2007, 01:27 PM	#3
Fergus Anderson Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 321	Oh I guess so since each "field" is an actual fact a full progressive 1440x1080 frame? I wonder if rendering to say 25p wm9 will work out ok or will it try and blend the fields together?

March 26th, 2007, 08:25 PM	#4
Enea Lanzarone Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Switzerland Posts: 53	There's definetely no need for special processing, i.e. deinterlacing and blending fields. Converting to 25p WM9 will work out ok as it is. If you decide to set your project settings to progressive frames (or "No fields", I don't know what it's called in Vegas), you have to know that transitions or text effects (has been discussed here earlier) will also be rendered progressively and might not look as smooth as in a interlaced project. But you might as well leave the field settings as they are. I often mix progressive with interlaced footage in an interlaced project in Adobe Premiere and it works well.

March 26th, 2007, 09:24 PM	#5
Yow Siang Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 153	same here but desperately looking to BUY a HV20Pal.. but cant find any local store selling it yet and not even online stores...sighhh..

March 27th, 2007, 05:46 AM	#8
Alastair Brown Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Glasgow/Scotland Posts: 626	I'm also keeping an eye on the horison for the first PAL HV-20's. Nothing on the radar yet.

March 27th, 2007, 06:05 AM	#9
John Millar New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: uk/scotland/ Posts: 17	i too am awaiting for this little monster in pal land any idea when it will be arriving as it was supposed to be shipping in april in usa and turned up early maybe it will be same in pal land and will appear pretty soon heard dates of 7th 17th april but will have to wait and see ?