Comparison Chart: HV10 and HV20 at DVinfo.net

Chris Hurd · February 1st, 2007, 12:08 AM

Meant to have this ready much earlier today... but, as usual...

http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/cano...rehv10hv20.php

Fairly comprehensive but obviously not entirely complete. What's missing?

Tom Roper · February 1st, 2007, 08:31 AM

Nicely done.

Kurth Bousman · February 1st, 2007, 10:33 AM

wow - Chris , will this mean a reduction in Reds pricing ?? Just joking , obviously , but Canons' gone a destroyed my consumer fairness balance. You know the one that says buy Sonys' video cams but Canons' still cams. I can hardly wait for the early reports. Almost as big as the fx1 in perking my interest. thanks for the great news.

Bill Pryor · February 1st, 2007, 11:22 AM

Hey, Chris, I think you got the HV10 and HV20 prices switched.

Chris Hurd · February 1st, 2007, 11:32 AM

Seems that way at first glance, doesn't it Bill? But at the moment those prices are accurate... the HV20 will have an MSRP of only $1099, and Canon USA has not yet announced a corresponding price drop for the HV10, which still lists for $1299.

While the current MSRP discrepancy might seem strange, most of the authorized Canon dealers in the U.S. are in fact selling the HV10 for much less than full retail. For example at the MacWorld expo in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, B&H was taking HV10 orders in their both for $899 with free shipping.

So I guess it all evens out in the end.

Lee Wilson · February 1st, 2007, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Pryor

Hey, Chris, I think you got the HV10 and HV20 prices switched.

Bill, he hasn't !!! Yes the HV20 is cheaper than it predecessor !

Michael Struthers · February 1st, 2007, 11:48 AM

Hmmm. Does Canon have any mics that fit on the shoe besided the DM-50?

Chris Hurd · February 1st, 2007, 11:56 AM

Nope -- the DM-50 is currently the only Canon Advanced Accessory Shoe microphone.

You'll find plenty of other mics that *fit* on the shoe, such as the Sennheiser MKE-300, but they won't *connect* through the shoe. Instead they'll plug into the 3.5mm stereo audio input minijack.

So there's a lot of mic versatility if you don't mind the cables... but there's only one Canon AAS mic.

Bill Pryor · February 1st, 2007, 12:07 PM

I stand corrected...and amazed. It's going to be really difficult to resist it for this price. In addition to the obvious use as a deck, having an ittybittycam that does 24p to use when the XH A1 is inappropriate (like for camera-dangerous shots or guerrilla video where you need to look like a tourist), this is looking really nice.

It sort of takes me back to my old 16mm days when I'd lug around a CP16R but always had a Bolex for backup, for aerials, and for situations where I didn't want to take the expensive, bigger camera. The HV20 might become my Bolex soon.

Larry Kamerman · February 1st, 2007, 12:28 PM

Chris, thanx for the writeup. How manual can you go with the HV20? (focus, zoom, iris)

Wes Vasher · February 1st, 2007, 12:29 PM

Also for doing interviews where a larger or more professional camera might be intimidating. Sometimes a small cam can help get a more natural interview. But yeah, the guerrilla factor is pretty interesting.

Chris Hurd · February 1st, 2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Kamerman

How manual can you go with the HV20? (focus, zoom, iris)

Larry, see http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=85370

Larry Kamerman · February 1st, 2007, 01:53 PM

Thanks Chris. Not everything, but not bad for a little $1g HDV 24P camera. Not bad at all.

February 1st, 2007, 12:08 AM	#1
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Comparison Chart: HV10 and HV20 Meant to have this ready much earlier today... but, as usual... http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/cano...rehv10hv20.php Fairly comprehensive but obviously not entirely complete. What's missing? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 1st, 2007, 11:32 AM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Seems that way at first glance, doesn't it Bill? But at the moment those prices are accurate... the HV20 will have an MSRP of only $1099, and Canon USA has not yet announced a corresponding price drop for the HV10, which still lists for $1299. While the current MSRP discrepancy might seem strange, most of the authorized Canon dealers in the U.S. are in fact selling the HV10 for much less than full retail. For example at the MacWorld expo in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, B&H was taking HV10 orders in their both for $899 with free shipping. So I guess it all evens out in the end. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 1st, 2007, 11:48 AM	#7
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	Hmmm. Does Canon have any mics that fit on the shoe besided the DM-50? __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

February 1st, 2007, 11:56 AM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Nope -- the DM-50 is currently the only Canon Advanced Accessory Shoe microphone. You'll find plenty of other mics that fit on the shoe, such as the Sennheiser MKE-300, but they won't connect through the shoe. Instead they'll plug into the 3.5mm stereo audio input minijack. So there's a lot of mic versatility if you don't mind the cables... but there's only one Canon AAS mic. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 1st, 2007, 12:28 PM	#10
Larry Kamerman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York,NY Posts: 100	Chris, thanx for the writeup. How manual can you go with the HV20? (focus, zoom, iris) __________________ www.gencofilms.com

February 1st, 2007, 08:31 AM	#2
Tom Roper Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 1,891	Nicely done.

February 1st, 2007, 10:33 AM	#3
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	wow - Chris , will this mean a reduction in Reds pricing ?? Just joking , obviously , but Canons' gone a destroyed my consumer fairness balance. You know the one that says buy Sonys' video cams but Canons' still cams. I can hardly wait for the early reports. Almost as big as the fx1 in perking my interest. thanks for the great news.

February 1st, 2007, 11:22 AM	#4
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Hey, Chris, I think you got the HV10 and HV20 prices switched.

February 1st, 2007, 12:07 PM	#9
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I stand corrected...and amazed. It's going to be really difficult to resist it for this price. In addition to the obvious use as a deck, having an ittybittycam that does 24p to use when the XH A1 is inappropriate (like for camera-dangerous shots or guerrilla video where you need to look like a tourist), this is looking really nice. It sort of takes me back to my old 16mm days when I'd lug around a CP16R but always had a Bolex for backup, for aerials, and for situations where I didn't want to take the expensive, bigger camera. The HV20 might become my Bolex soon.

February 1st, 2007, 12:29 PM	#11
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Also for doing interviews where a larger or more professional camera might be intimidating. Sometimes a small cam can help get a more natural interview. But yeah, the guerrilla factor is pretty interesting.

February 1st, 2007, 01:53 PM	#13
Larry Kamerman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York,NY Posts: 100	Thanks Chris. Not everything, but not bad for a little $1g HDV 24P camera. Not bad at all. __________________ www.gencofilms.com