Footage at the airport at DVinfo.net

Tim Le · January 23rd, 2007, 12:24 AM

Here's some footage shot at LAX while I was practicing how to operate on a tripod. Even with a good fluid head (the HV10 was on an OConnor DV), it's difficult to track objects at full telephoto because the little HV10 has virtually no inertia to smooth things out. I've been practicing for several months just to get to this point!

Right click and save as:

http://www.mydatabus.com/public/tle/z/LAX.avi

This is an Xvid encoded 720P avi.

Robert Batta · January 23rd, 2007, 03:22 AM

hi,

deinterlaced the 60i (or 50i) video first ?

Lee Wilson · January 23rd, 2007, 07:53 AM

Don't forget to swutch of the OIS if you are on a tripod !

Lee Wilson · January 23rd, 2007, 08:02 AM

just download, great footage ! Seems pretty stable to me.

Brad Vaughan · January 23rd, 2007, 10:35 AM

Absolutely fantastic footage. Looked pretty smooth to me!

Now that's the kinda stuff I like to record! Nature and Flying...my two favorite recording targets!

Wish I could afford a nice tripod like that.

Please share more!!!

Lee Wilson · January 23rd, 2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Vaughan

Now that's the kinda stuff I like to record! Nature and Flying...my two favorite recording targets!

Wish I could afford a nice tripod like that.

Please share more!!!

You should get yourself a cheap parrot.

Tim Le · January 23rd, 2007, 02:09 PM

Robert, the 60i video was deinteraced to 30p when it was rendered out.

I'm glad someone else likes airplane footage too! I could film that airport all day if I had the time. My panning is getting better but there is still some stuttering in the shot of the 747 taking off. The hardest part of the pan is when the object is right in front of your because that's where the pan speed is the greatest.

Wes Vasher · January 23rd, 2007, 03:59 PM

Tim, gorgeous footage! Great pans. I'm a huge jetliner nut so this was a real treat.

Jung Kyu · January 23rd, 2007, 10:23 PM

great shot...did u use telephoto lense in this shot?

Harold Schreiber · January 23rd, 2007, 10:29 PM

Hi Tim,

Are you using the Tri-Pod's standard control handle ??

How are you monitoring what the Cam is seeing ??

How are you controling the Zoom ??

Harold

Tim Le · January 24th, 2007, 01:13 PM

Thanks guys. Setup details:

- Stock lens, no teleconverter.
- OConnor Ultimate DV head on Gitzo G340 legs. Standard pan handle, but sometimes I hold the handle closer to the head (like in the JAL Cargo 747 shot) to reduce leverage and reduce the sensitivity of the head.
- Monitor using the flip out LCD.
- Zoom with the switch on the camera with my left hand. This is very awkward but the only other option is the remote control.

Ramon Quesada · January 24th, 2007, 03:41 PM

Nice video and amazing quality. Congratulations !

One question: Waht camera settings do you use ? P Mode ?, Scn mode ?, Full Auto ?. Please tell us to learn how can we do better clips with the camera. Thanks again.

Tim Le · January 24th, 2007, 07:48 PM

Ramon,

I haven't experimented with the camera enough to advise the best settings but generally I stay in P mode or Tv mode. I don't use full auto because in that mode they lock out certain controls, like the the image stabilizer is always on and you can't turn it off. You need to turn the stabilizer off when on a tripod. I read other people use Tv mode at 60 to prevent the gain from kicking in so I use that sometimes.

Harold Schreiber · January 24th, 2007, 10:49 PM

Hi Tim,

I kind of figured that you were using the stock set-up. The really hard way, from my experience.

I do horse shows, power chute flying, roller skating, soccer, and other videography.

I use a 5" to 8" LCD Moniter with a custom sun hood, a custom 2' to 4' telescoping control handle(s), a custom 180 degree vertical articulating Cam-to-head mount, and either a Sony wired remote handle and/or a custom set up infrared remote (via fiberoptic), and get excellent control of the panning and zooming for the fast moving stuff.

I seldom ever use a stock set up, after years of using the above system. I can sit or stand and have great Cam control. I'm even set up to be on full battery power for a full 12 hrs or so. (including 2 VCR's to make tapes for the horse show folks)

Don't know if any of this might help in your situation, but can send you pics if interested.

Harold

Tim Le · January 25th, 2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harold Schreiber

Don't know if any of this might help in your situation, but can send you pics if interested.

Sure Harold, feel free to attach your pics to this thread so others can see tool. I've thought about getting a second pan handle and an external monitor for a full-on EFP setup, but that might look a little silly with the HV10. I already get weird looks with it on the OConnor! Besides, I'm trying to learn the hard way so in situations where I don't have all that stuff I can still operate the camera well. Although an EFP setup would be ideal.

Here is some more HV10 footage from my files:

(Right click and Save As)

Colorful model airplane, 540p, 40 MB, Xvid AVI:
http://www.mydatabus.com/public/tle/...er_narrows.avi

Mini model helicopter, 540p, 60 MB, Xvid AVI:
http://www.mydatabus.com/public/tle/z/airwolf.avi

January 23rd, 2007, 12:24 AM	#1
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	Footage at the airport Here's some footage shot at LAX while I was practicing how to operate on a tripod. Even with a good fluid head (the HV10 was on an OConnor DV), it's difficult to track objects at full telephoto because the little HV10 has virtually no inertia to smooth things out. I've been practicing for several months just to get to this point! Right click and save as: http://www.mydatabus.com/public/tle/z/LAX.avi This is an Xvid encoded 720P avi.

January 23rd, 2007, 03:22 AM	#2
Robert Batta Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hungary / Europe Posts: 128	deinterlace hi, deinterlaced the 60i (or 50i) video first ? __________________ Robert Batta my stock video portfolio : https://www.pond5.com/artist/skysuta Pond5 – the world’s first web-based stock footage marketplace –

January 23rd, 2007, 10:23 PM	#9
Jung Kyu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 143	wow great shot...did u use telephoto lense in this shot?

January 24th, 2007, 03:41 PM	#12
Ramon Quesada New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S/C Tfe., Sp. Posts: 6	Nice Nice video and amazing quality. Congratulations ! One question: Waht camera settings do you use ? P Mode ?, Scn mode ?, Full Auto ?. Please tell us to learn how can we do better clips with the camera. Thanks again. __________________ Wellcome to the real definition...

January 23rd, 2007, 07:53 AM	#3
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	Don't forget to swutch of the OIS if you are on a tripod !

January 23rd, 2007, 08:02 AM	#4
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	just download, great footage ! Seems pretty stable to me.

January 23rd, 2007, 10:35 AM	#5
Brad Vaughan Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Va Beach, Va Posts: 241	Absolutely fantastic footage. Looked pretty smooth to me! Now that's the kinda stuff I like to record! Nature and Flying...my two favorite recording targets! Wish I could afford a nice tripod like that. Please share more!!!

January 23rd, 2007, 02:09 PM	#7
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	Robert, the 60i video was deinteraced to 30p when it was rendered out. I'm glad someone else likes airplane footage too! I could film that airport all day if I had the time. My panning is getting better but there is still some stuttering in the shot of the 747 taking off. The hardest part of the pan is when the object is right in front of your because that's where the pan speed is the greatest.

January 23rd, 2007, 03:59 PM	#8
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Tim, gorgeous footage! Great pans. I'm a huge jetliner nut so this was a real treat.

January 23rd, 2007, 10:29 PM	#10
Harold Schreiber Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olathe, Kansas Posts: 309	Hi Tim, Are you using the Tri-Pod's standard control handle ?? How are you monitoring what the Cam is seeing ?? How are you controling the Zoom ?? Harold

January 24th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#11
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	Thanks guys. Setup details: - Stock lens, no teleconverter. - OConnor Ultimate DV head on Gitzo G340 legs. Standard pan handle, but sometimes I hold the handle closer to the head (like in the JAL Cargo 747 shot) to reduce leverage and reduce the sensitivity of the head. - Monitor using the flip out LCD. - Zoom with the switch on the camera with my left hand. This is very awkward but the only other option is the remote control.

January 24th, 2007, 07:48 PM	#13
Tim Le Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 350	Ramon, I haven't experimented with the camera enough to advise the best settings but generally I stay in P mode or Tv mode. I don't use full auto because in that mode they lock out certain controls, like the the image stabilizer is always on and you can't turn it off. You need to turn the stabilizer off when on a tripod. I read other people use Tv mode at 60 to prevent the gain from kicking in so I use that sometimes.

January 24th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#14
Harold Schreiber Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olathe, Kansas Posts: 309	Hi Tim, I kind of figured that you were using the stock set-up. The really hard way, from my experience. I do horse shows, power chute flying, roller skating, soccer, and other videography. I use a 5" to 8" LCD Moniter with a custom sun hood, a custom 2' to 4' telescoping control handle(s), a custom 180 degree vertical articulating Cam-to-head mount, and either a Sony wired remote handle and/or a custom set up infrared remote (via fiberoptic), and get excellent control of the panning and zooming for the fast moving stuff. I seldom ever use a stock set up, after years of using the above system. I can sit or stand and have great Cam control. I'm even set up to be on full battery power for a full 12 hrs or so. (including 2 VCR's to make tapes for the horse show folks) Don't know if any of this might help in your situation, but can send you pics if interested. Harold