HV10 + FCP = Capture? at DVinfo.net

Elmer Lang · January 16th, 2007, 10:22 AM

Anyone having luck capturing HV10 to FCP? Is it separating into different files?

thanks,
elmer

Tomas Chinchilla · January 16th, 2007, 01:21 PM

What's your particular problem and what version of FCP are you using?

Elmer Lang · January 16th, 2007, 01:44 PM

I've had problems capturing that I imagine are due to hardware/software limitations (1.33ghz PowerBook/FCP 5.0.4),

But other threads here and elsewhere note similar problems - batch capture files split, only able to capture using HDV firewire (can't capture using Apple Intermediate), etc.

Since I plan on rectifying my hardware/software problems (MacBook Pro 2.33/FCP 5.1.2) I was wondering if there've been any successful stories, or if maybe a patch is needed and awaited.

thanks,
elmer

Tomas Chinchilla · January 16th, 2007, 02:57 PM

I am just wondering if it's not a settings related issues. Like the second tab of the "Log and Capture Tab".

Lee Wilson · January 16th, 2007, 05:03 PM

Try using iMovie HD - it says 'HDV 1080i' in the setup, but it is actually using the Apple Intermediate codec.

Just an idea.

Tomas Chinchilla · January 16th, 2007, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Wilson

Try using iMovie HD - it says 'HDV 1080i' in the setup, but it is actually using the Apple Intermediate codec.

Just an idea.

That will not only result in a format conversion but will take far more space than necessary.

Lee Wilson · January 16th, 2007, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Chinchilla

That will not only result in a format conversion but will take far more space than necessary.

How does the intermediate codec convert - and what is it converting from ?

Tomas Chinchilla · January 16th, 2007, 06:56 PM

The Native HDV format is MPEG2, when you capture with FCPHD it wraps that MPEG2 so that it can edit it. In iMovie it takes that HDV and transcodes it into AIC and the resulting file is much much larger. MPEG2 @ 25MPS and AIC it's something much much higher.

Do a test capturing the same clip and you'll see the resulting size.

On the other hand, much people argue that the AIC conversion does not degrade quality but for some of us (I am a very picky person) we can actually see a difference.

Rich Dykmans · January 16th, 2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Chinchilla

Do a test capturing the same clip and you'll see the resulting size.

On the other hand, much people argue that the AIC conversion does not degrade quality but for some of us (I am a very picky person) we can actually see a difference.

Yep, appears in my tests that file sizes are over twice as large and I have also seen some quality differences. My best transcoding results quality wise (of course it takes time) is HDV to DVCPro 720p60 via mpeg streamclip, (doesn't look too bad.)

Ramon Quesada · January 17th, 2007, 01:26 AM

I was editing with Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and not capture in separate files (extension Mpeg), but now with Sony Vegas 7 it can do it (.m2t files extension). The export configuration was in 1080i, now i.m going to try 720p. format that can produce better results, i hope.

January 16th, 2007, 10:22 AM	#1
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	HV10 + FCP = Capture? Anyone having luck capturing HV10 to FCP? Is it separating into different files? thanks, elmer

January 16th, 2007, 01:21 PM	#2
Tomas Chinchilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 212 Images: 8	What's your particular problem and what version of FCP are you using? __________________ Tomas A. Chinchilla \| CANON XH A1, HV20 & HC3 \| Retired Cams: GL2, HC1, FX1, Z1, \| Final Cut Studio 2

January 16th, 2007, 02:57 PM	#4
Tomas Chinchilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 212 Images: 8	I am just wondering if it's not a settings related issues. Like the second tab of the "Log and Capture Tab". __________________ Tomas A. Chinchilla \| CANON XH A1, HV20 & HC3 \| Retired Cams: GL2, HC1, FX1, Z1, \| Final Cut Studio 2

January 16th, 2007, 06:56 PM	#8
Tomas Chinchilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 212 Images: 8	The Native HDV format is MPEG2, when you capture with FCPHD it wraps that MPEG2 so that it can edit it. In iMovie it takes that HDV and transcodes it into AIC and the resulting file is much much larger. MPEG2 @ 25MPS and AIC it's something much much higher. Do a test capturing the same clip and you'll see the resulting size. On the other hand, much people argue that the AIC conversion does not degrade quality but for some of us (I am a very picky person) we can actually see a difference. __________________ Tomas A. Chinchilla \| CANON XH A1, HV20 & HC3 \| Retired Cams: GL2, HC1, FX1, Z1, \| Final Cut Studio 2

January 17th, 2007, 01:26 AM	#10
Ramon Quesada New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S/C Tfe., Sp. Posts: 6	APP or SV I was editing with Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 and not capture in separate files (extension Mpeg), but now with Sony Vegas 7 it can do it (.m2t files extension). The export configuration was in 1080i, now i.m going to try 720p. format that can produce better results, i hope.

January 16th, 2007, 01:44 PM	#3
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	I've had problems capturing that I imagine are due to hardware/software limitations (1.33ghz PowerBook/FCP 5.0.4), But other threads here and elsewhere note similar problems - batch capture files split, only able to capture using HDV firewire (can't capture using Apple Intermediate), etc. Since I plan on rectifying my hardware/software problems (MacBook Pro 2.33/FCP 5.1.2) I was wondering if there've been any successful stories, or if maybe a patch is needed and awaited. thanks, elmer

January 16th, 2007, 05:03 PM	#5
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	Try using iMovie HD - it says 'HDV 1080i' in the setup, but it is actually using the Apple Intermediate codec. Just an idea.