Wide angle adapter HV10 at DVinfo.net

David Sayed · September 18th, 2006, 09:21 PM

I'm contemplating a wide angle adapter for the HV-10 - my brief time with it in a store leads me to think that this would be a useful accessory.
I have come across a wide angle adapter made by a Japanese company called Raynox, which appears to do what I want. The specific model is the Raynox HD-5005, which offers 0.5x magnification. Info on this converter is here: http://raynox.co.jp/english/video/hd5000pro/index.htm
I was wondering if others have experience with this company's converters and any advice on using such a device with a camera such as an HV-10.

Colin Gould · September 18th, 2006, 11:39 PM

Separate but related question, sorry to sort of hijack the thread David-

I was looking also for the Canon wide-angle adapter, Canon lists the model# as " Wide Converter WD-H37C" . (note the C on the end)

I looked around <company X>, <company Y>, <company Z> etc for the WD-H37C part,
but they only listed WD-H37 ... not H37*C* .
Product code# is 1305B001AA per Canon manual/website , compatibility only w/ HV10, not Optura10/others (which the H37 part seems to be for.)

Canon's website lists also WD-H37 wide adapter, but for Opturas...
that product code# appears to be 8836A001AA.

I checked <Company X> details for the listed WD-H37 (NOT C part), and it has the 8836A001 number. I think this is DIFFERENT part. ??

Can anyone confirm there really is a functional etc difference here, eg two different/incompatible parts?

If so / meantime, people may need to be very careful ordering the right part.

Also note, the Tele Converter TL-H37 and FS-H37U 37MM Filter Set DO seem to have the same part# and compatibility listing, across the HV10 and Optura 10/20, so those are OK.

Pete Bauer · October 2nd, 2006, 06:15 PM

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Spike Spiegel · October 5th, 2006, 07:11 PM

We are planning to purchase the hv10 for a pov camera that we can plan to throw in many different uses, for a travel show. A wide angle lens / attachment is definitely needed for this purpose, will the Canon WD-H37C 0.7x Wide Angle Converter be appropriate for a HDV shoot?

George Ellis · October 6th, 2006, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

We are planning to purchase the hv10 for a pov camera that we can plan to throw in many different uses, for a travel show. A wide angle lens / attachment is definitely needed for this purpose, will the Canon WD-H37C 0.7x Wide Angle Converter be appropriate for a HDV shoot?

I downloaded the manual that is linked in at the top of the forum. On pg 86, that is the one listed.

I am debating about using one as a POV helmet cam myself. Need a wide angle too.

Spike Spiegel · October 6th, 2006, 07:01 PM

cool! thanks for the info, i am guessing the wide angle is notgoing to distort the HD image too much then, if anyone has any experience with this, please post your comments. Thank you

George Ellis · October 9th, 2006, 08:53 AM

Spike, have you found a fit for a POV case yet or are you even doing a helmet mount? So far, the best site I have found is this guide at Mountain Bike Bill's and Pete Fager's.

http://www.mountainbikebill.com/HowToVideo.htm
http://www.petefagerlin.com/video_how_to.htm

Max Morris · October 11th, 2006, 10:37 AM

I have purchased the set up in question and it works great when your not zoomed in, there is distorting on the edges. When I purchased this wide angle lens I knew it was not a full zoom through.

I use the camera as a POV in conjunction with my XL-H1.

Lee Wilson · October 21st, 2006, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sayed

I have come across a wide angle adapter made by a Japanese company called Raynox, which appears to do what I want. The specific model is the Raynox HD-5005, which offers 0.5x magnification. Info on this converter is here: http://raynox.co.jp/english/video/hd5000pro/index.htm
I was wondering if others have experience with this company's converters and any advice on using such a device with a camera such as an HV-10.

I have this combination (HV10+ HD-5050), it works just like you would expect, no vignetting anywhere in the zoom range even on full wide angle.

Lee Wilson · October 25th, 2006, 09:21 AM

HV10 + Raynox 5050 Wide angle on full wide.

Actually there is some vignetting when you are on full wide (I just didn't notice it on the LCD - it must overscan a little)

http://www.filefactory.com/file/884d91/

Lee Wilson · October 25th, 2006, 03:43 PM

!! I change my mind yet again !!

There is no vignetting on the Raynox HD5050 wide angle lens - I left the plastic extender ring on by accident - hence the vignetting on the movie posted above.

George Ellis · October 25th, 2006, 05:04 PM

Wow! And it is only $95USD at B&H! And it has a filter ring!

Lee Wilson · October 25th, 2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Ellis

Wow! And it is only $95USD at B&H! And it has a filter ring!

Yep! the lens end is threaded (62mm) so you have the option of sticking filters on this end or the camera end (37mm).

Colin Gould · October 25th, 2006, 09:22 PM

Cool, thanks-
is the HD5050 big enough to also block (or otherwise confuse) the IAF sensor?
eg you need to disable Instant AF ?

What is the effect on the full telephoto?

Lee Wilson · October 25th, 2006, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Gould

Cool, thanks-
is the HD5050 big enough to also block (or otherwise confuse) the IAF sensor?
eg you need to disable Instant AF ?

The lens does block the IAF sensor, see pics here >>

But strangely the auto focus doesn't seem to mind (??) perhaps it switches to standard auto-focus automatically when big lens' or thumbs stop it from taking a meaningful reading (??)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin Gould

What is the effect on the full telephoto?

Same as the un-lensed HV10 on full telephoto but with 100% more area in the picture (the lens is a 0.5X) so it is like not having a lens attached and not quite zooming in as much.

September 18th, 2006, 09:21 PM	#1
David Sayed Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 35	Wide angle adapter HV10 I'm contemplating a wide angle adapter for the HV-10 - my brief time with it in a store leads me to think that this would be a useful accessory. I have come across a wide angle adapter made by a Japanese company called Raynox, which appears to do what I want. The specific model is the Raynox HD-5005, which offers 0.5x magnification. Info on this converter is here: http://raynox.co.jp/english/video/hd5000pro/index.htm I was wondering if others have experience with this company's converters and any advice on using such a device with a camera such as an HV-10.

September 18th, 2006, 11:39 PM	#2
Colin Gould Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foster City, CA Posts: 123	note: WHICH Canon wide-angle adapter? WD-H37C, not 37? Separate but related question, sorry to sort of hijack the thread David- I was looking also for the Canon wide-angle adapter, Canon lists the model# as " Wide Converter WD-H37C" . (note the C on the end) I looked around <company X>, <company Y>, <company Z> etc for the WD-H37C part, but they only listed WD-H37 ... not H37C . Product code# is 1305B001AA per Canon manual/website , compatibility only w/ HV10, not Optura10/others (which the H37 part seems to be for.) Canon's website lists also WD-H37 wide adapter, but for Opturas... that product code# appears to be 8836A001AA. I checked <Company X> details for the listed WD-H37 (NOT C part), and it has the 8836A001 number. I think this is DIFFERENT part. ?? Can anyone confirm there really is a functional etc difference here, eg two different/incompatible parts? If so / meantime, people may need to be very careful ordering the right part. Also note, the Tele Converter TL-H37 and FS-H37U 37MM Filter Set DO seem to have the same part# and compatibility listing, across the HV10 and Optura 10/20, so those are OK.

October 2nd, 2006, 06:15 PM	#3
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October 5th, 2006, 07:11 PM	#4
Spike Spiegel Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 429	HV10 wide angle We are planning to purchase the hv10 for a pov camera that we can plan to throw in many different uses, for a travel show. A wide angle lens / attachment is definitely needed for this purpose, will the Canon WD-H37C 0.7x Wide Angle Converter be appropriate for a HDV shoot?

October 11th, 2006, 10:37 AM	#8
Max Morris New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 12	Hv10 I have purchased the set up in question and it works great when your not zoomed in, there is distorting on the edges. When I purchased this wide angle lens I knew it was not a full zoom through. I use the camera as a POV in conjunction with my XL-H1. __________________ me thinks me likes

October 6th, 2006, 07:01 PM	#6
Spike Spiegel Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 429	cool! thanks for the info, i am guessing the wide angle is notgoing to distort the HD image too much then, if anyone has any experience with this, please post your comments. Thank you

October 9th, 2006, 08:53 AM	#7
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	Spike, have you found a fit for a POV case yet or are you even doing a helmet mount? So far, the best site I have found is this guide at Mountain Bike Bill's and Pete Fager's. http://www.mountainbikebill.com/HowToVideo.htm http://www.petefagerlin.com/video_how_to.htm

October 25th, 2006, 09:21 AM	#10
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	HV10 + Raynox 5050 Wide angle on full wide. Actually there is some vignetting when you are on full wide (I just didn't notice it on the LCD - it must overscan a little) http://www.filefactory.com/file/884d91/

October 25th, 2006, 03:43 PM	#11
Lee Wilson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 376	!! I change my mind yet again !! There is no vignetting on the Raynox HD5050 wide angle lens - I left the plastic extender ring on by accident - hence the vignetting on the movie posted above.

October 25th, 2006, 05:04 PM	#12
George Ellis Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 1,241	Wow! And it is only $95USD at B&H! And it has a filter ring!

October 25th, 2006, 09:22 PM	#14
Colin Gould Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foster City, CA Posts: 123	Cool, thanks- is the HD5050 big enough to also block (or otherwise confuse) the IAF sensor? eg you need to disable Instant AF ? What is the effect on the full telephoto?