Got an HV40 today

David Rice · June 30th, 2009, 04:26 PM

I sold my Canon HV20 and bought a HV40. The HV40 uses the same battery, lens, and filters as the HV20.

I'm shooting only 24p and dropping 24p directly onto the Vegas 8.c time line. I have had no problems. It saves time, and I am no longer filling hard drives with Cineform files. I love it!

Taky Cheung · July 1st, 2009, 09:48 AM

In the old workflow, there is the fee (Cineform) method and the free (hv20pulldown.exe) method. So if you are using Cineform already, there is no difference to shoot PF24 or 24F. But for the free method, you don't have to deal with a huge intermediate file and extra step to wait for the removal process.

Marty Hudzik · July 1st, 2009, 01:59 PM

Cineform is a major part of my workflow already, so I did not invest in it for the purpose of removing the 24f stream. Because of this, I was also unaware that this could not be accomplished with the NLE of choice, kind of like the old DVX100 24PA removal that was automatic. So I see how this could seriously improve the ease of use. I would also hope it improves the image also.

Thanks.

Alex Humphrey · July 18th, 2009, 10:29 PM

didn't realize that Canon's HV20/30 wasn't using a 24f like the other Canon HDV 3 chips. Glad i didn't get one. Might need to get an HV40 as a B camera for my JVC HD110 though. I've mixed JVC HD110 and Canon A1 footage before without too much hassel (inspite of the resolution difference) in FCP. I'm guessing the HV40 24p captures fine in 1080i 24p FCP setting?

Chris Barcellos · July 18th, 2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Hudzik

Cineform is a major part of my workflow already, so I did not invest in it for the purpose of removing the 24f stream. Because of this, I was also unaware that this could not be accomplished with the NLE of choice, kind of like the old DVX100 24PA removal that was automatic. So I see how this could seriously improve the ease of use. I would also hope it improves the image also.

Thanks.

And 24p removal is not the only reason to use Cineform. The codec is as near to a lossless codec we will see at this level, and if you want to be able to edit generation to generation.

Michael Galvan · July 19th, 2009, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Humphrey

didn't realize that Canon's HV20/30 wasn't using a 24f like the other Canon HDV 3 chips. Glad i didn't get one. Might need to get an HV40 as a B camera for my JVC HD110 though. I've mixed JVC HD110 and Canon A1 footage before without too much hassel (inspite of the resolution difference) in FCP. I'm guessing the HV40 24p captures fine in 1080i 24p FCP setting?

The HV40 does record in 24F just like their 3-chip Pro Cameras (XL/XH cams).

You would capture the same way as you would the F modes in Final Cut Pro.

24F recording in the HV40 lays 24 discrete frames with no pulldown to tape, just like in the XL and XH cams.

Hope this helps.

Ray Bell · July 19th, 2009, 07:54 AM

Cineform also works very very well to pull up the 1440 to 1920 frame size if your mixing with
other sources that are native 1920....

Joshua Parker · July 21st, 2009, 07:49 AM

I am so jealous but I am still contemplating on whether or not to get the HV40. Michael, your 2008 demo reel is amazing.

Michael Galvan · July 21st, 2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua Parker

I am so jealous but I am still contemplating on whether or not to get the HV40. Michael, your 2008 demo reel is amazing.

Thanks for the kind words Joshua!

Mostly all of the stuff in it has been shot with the Canon XL H1(S).

I think the HV40 is a great camera. Any reason for still being on the fence about purchasing one? Let me know if you got any questions about it.

June 30th, 2009, 04:26 PM	#16
David Rice Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 470	Canon HV40 I sold my Canon HV20 and bought a HV40. The HV40 uses the same battery, lens, and filters as the HV20. I'm shooting only 24p and dropping 24p directly onto the Vegas 8.c time line. I have had no problems. It saves time, and I am no longer filling hard drives with Cineform files. I love it!

July 1st, 2009, 09:48 AM	#17
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	In the old workflow, there is the fee (Cineform) method and the free (hv20pulldown.exe) method. So if you are using Cineform already, there is no difference to shoot PF24 or 24F. But for the free method, you don't have to deal with a huge intermediate file and extra step to wait for the removal process. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

July 1st, 2009, 01:59 PM	#18
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Cineform is a major part of my workflow already, so I did not invest in it for the purpose of removing the 24f stream. Because of this, I was also unaware that this could not be accomplished with the NLE of choice, kind of like the old DVX100 24PA removal that was automatic. So I see how this could seriously improve the ease of use. I would also hope it improves the image also. Thanks.

July 18th, 2009, 10:29 PM	#19
Alex Humphrey Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: california North and South Posts: 642	didn't realize that Canon's HV20/30 wasn't using a 24f like the other Canon HDV 3 chips. Glad i didn't get one. Might need to get an HV40 as a B camera for my JVC HD110 though. I've mixed JVC HD110 and Canon A1 footage before without too much hassel (inspite of the resolution difference) in FCP. I'm guessing the HV40 24p captures fine in 1080i 24p FCP setting?

July 19th, 2009, 07:54 AM	#22
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Cineform also works very very well to pull up the 1440 to 1920 frame size if your mixing with other sources that are native 1920....

July 21st, 2009, 07:49 AM	#23
Joshua Parker Tourist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 3	I am so jealous but I am still contemplating on whether or not to get the HV40. Michael, your 2008 demo reel is amazing.