Will it Really See a Difference: HG10 vs XH at DVinfo.net

Rich Boren · June 5th, 2008, 09:03 PM

I currently have a Canon HG-10 and am getting ready to beging shooting some images of my sailing trip from California to Panama for future use in a DVD series. I am impressed with the image quality I see from the HG10. Having never personally used or seen images from Canon's Prosumer XH line of HD cameras, is the image quality worth the $3200 purchase price? I plan on buying a second HG10 before I leave in a few months....but my stomach keeps me thinking about the XH line...but my wallet keeps telling me about the roughly $2500 price difference!

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Regards

Rich Boren
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Mike Meyerson · June 6th, 2008, 09:14 AM

I have an HV20 and XLH1 (more or less, the same as the HG and XH)...and I can tell you there's a difference in image quality. If the price is worth it is really up to you and depends on what you plan on using it for.

Right off the bat, the extra $$ gets you get a better lense, larger/more CCD's, and XLR audio. Also, consider the perception of how much more profesional the camera's look...I can't show up for a corporate gig (in which I'm getting paid a good amount) with a small camera that looks "consumer"...no matter how great the images look, it's just not going to fly...clients would be worried from the start.

Don't get me wrong, my HV20 is a great camera...but I only use it for a feeder deck, location scouting, back-up cam and travel cam...my XLH1 goes to all my paid gigs.

Dave Blackhurst · June 6th, 2008, 01:18 PM

Rich -
Short answer is you get what you pay for... BUT you get a lot in a small cam for the money - it will be a question of how critical you or your intended audience will be vs. the increased cost.

If you need a big cam for "image" rather than image, that's another topic, and the small cams have their limitations and attached perceptions.

If you're video'ing for web use, you'll probably never see the difference. Blow the images up enough, and you'll see the differences, which ultimately may or may not be material to your purposes.

Can you arrange to rent/borrow one of the big cams and shoot side by side? Either you'll decide it's worth the $ difference, or you're fine with the HG10...

Robert M Wright · June 8th, 2008, 07:00 AM

If you do decide to get a second HG10, you might consider an HF100 instead. The price is about the same (HF100 might be a tad lower even) and the HF100 should give you better quality images.

Seun Osewa · June 8th, 2008, 08:25 AM

Why should the HF100 give better images?

Robert M Wright · June 9th, 2008, 06:10 AM

The maximum bitrate on the HF100 is higher, it can record 1920x1080, a 30P mode has been added, and apparently the quality in progressive modes has been improved considerably also.

June 5th, 2008, 09:03 PM	#1
Rich Boren Tourist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2	Will it Really See a Difference: HG10 vs XH I currently have a Canon HG-10 and am getting ready to beging shooting some images of my sailing trip from California to Panama for future use in a DVD series. I am impressed with the image quality I see from the HG10. Having never personally used or seen images from Canon's Prosumer XH line of HD cameras, is the image quality worth the $3200 purchase price? I plan on buying a second HG10 before I leave in a few months....but my stomach keeps me thinking about the XH line...but my wallet keeps telling me about the roughly $2500 price difference! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Regards Rich Boren S/V THIRD DAY http://www.sailblogs.com/member/svthirdday/ Last edited by Rich Boren; June 5th, 2008 at 09:05 PM. Reason: spelling

June 6th, 2008, 09:14 AM	#2
Mike Meyerson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mahopac, NY Posts: 293	I have an HV20 and XLH1 (more or less, the same as the HG and XH)...and I can tell you there's a difference in image quality. If the price is worth it is really up to you and depends on what you plan on using it for. Right off the bat, the extra $$ gets you get a better lense, larger/more CCD's, and XLR audio. Also, consider the perception of how much more profesional the camera's look...I can't show up for a corporate gig (in which I'm getting paid a good amount) with a small camera that looks "consumer"...no matter how great the images look, it's just not going to fly...clients would be worried from the start. Don't get me wrong, my HV20 is a great camera...but I only use it for a feeder deck, location scouting, back-up cam and travel cam...my XLH1 goes to all my paid gigs.

June 6th, 2008, 01:18 PM	#3
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Rich - Short answer is you get what you pay for... BUT you get a lot in a small cam for the money - it will be a question of how critical you or your intended audience will be vs. the increased cost. If you need a big cam for "image" rather than image, that's another topic, and the small cams have their limitations and attached perceptions. If you're video'ing for web use, you'll probably never see the difference. Blow the images up enough, and you'll see the differences, which ultimately may or may not be material to your purposes. Can you arrange to rent/borrow one of the big cams and shoot side by side? Either you'll decide it's worth the $ difference, or you're fine with the HG10...

June 8th, 2008, 07:00 AM	#4
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	If you do decide to get a second HG10, you might consider an HF100 instead. The price is about the same (HF100 might be a tad lower even) and the HF100 should give you better quality images.

June 8th, 2008, 08:25 AM	#5
Seun Osewa Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Africa Posts: 255	Why should the HF100 give better images?

June 9th, 2008, 06:10 AM	#6
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	The maximum bitrate on the HF100 is higher, it can record 1920x1080, a 30P mode has been added, and apparently the quality in progressive modes has been improved considerably also.