Canon VIXIA HF10 and HF100 flash memory HD cams

Paul Chiappini · January 9th, 2008, 11:26 PM

Do these not have a standard viewfinder -- just the larger LCD screen?

Chris Hurd · January 10th, 2008, 08:36 AM

That's right, Paul. Just the flip-out LCD only. No viewfinder in the traditional sense.

Paul Kendal · January 10th, 2008, 08:58 AM

Has anyone heard or seen if these will have zebras like the HV20?

John Friederich · January 12th, 2008, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

That's right, Paul. Just the flip-out LCD only. No viewfinder in the traditional sense.

Wow, just can't live without a viewfinder here in the desert sun, even the tiny one one the HV20 is useable (and I don't need reading glasses with the viewfinder.) Guess I'm sticking with the HV20 for another year...

John F
LV, NV

Yuning Chi · January 13th, 2008, 05:38 AM

I saw HF10 has 2 SD slots on a clip shot on CES.
I am not sure about that, is that possible?

Chris Hurd · January 14th, 2008, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuning Chi

I saw HF10 has 2 SD slots on a clip shot on CES.
I am not sure about that, is that possible?

Each of these new Canon flash-based camcorders (three models in the FS series, two models in the HF series) have *one* card slot. Attached is a photo of the HF10 card slot (click to see it big). Hope this helps,

Paul Chiappini · January 15th, 2008, 11:00 AM

Are there any specific requirements for the SD cards for use in the HF10/100?

I emailed Canon support and got a non-specific answer -- "SD or SDHC memory cards may be used in the HF10."

Chris Hurd · January 15th, 2008, 01:09 PM

The specific answer is SDHC only. I tried a Sandisk 2GB Ultra II SD card in an HF10 yesterday and the camcorder would not recognize it. It must be an SDHC Class 4 or Class 6 card... see attached pic... a Class 2 card will not be fast enough.

Yuning Chi · January 17th, 2008, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Each of these new Canon flash-based camcorders (three models in the FS series, two models in the HF series) have *one* card slot. Attached is a photo of the HF10 card slot (click to see it big). Hope this helps,

Well.. That is good enough, thanks!

I would perfer the HF100, cause the Transcend 8 GB class6 SDHC would only cost less than 45 USD in China, and by paying around 100 USD you can get a 16 GB SDHC card.

It is a little shame that canon did not put a double SD slot in their flash memory camcorder,but I assume some of the manufacters will bring us multi memory slots camcorder in the future.

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2008, 02:40 PM

Some new hands-on HF10 photos here: http://www.dvinfo.net/gallery/browseimages.php?c=52

Paul Kendal · January 21st, 2008, 08:46 PM

Hey Chris,

Does this thing have Zebras like the HV20?

Chris Hurd · January 21st, 2008, 09:16 PM

Don't know for sure, Paul, but I'll find out tomorrow.

Paul Kendal · January 21st, 2008, 11:19 PM

Thanks Chris!
Can't wait for your update and review.

Chris Hurd · January 23rd, 2008, 11:51 PM

Sorry for the delay Paul but Canon USA has confirmed for me that the VIXIA HF series camcorders do *not* have zebras. And that's a drag.

Jon Fairhurst · January 24th, 2008, 01:48 AM

There should be a law that all but the cheapest cams have:

* Manual control of exposure, shutter, iris and gain
* 24p and 30p. 60p for the overachievers
* Focus ring
* External mic input and manual gain control
* Quick access of all manual features

Some of the cams are oh, so close. But none of the high-end consumer cams at CES had it all...

January 10th, 2008, 08:36 AM	#62
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January 10th, 2008, 08:58 AM	#63
Paul Kendal Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Asheville, North Carolina Posts: 89	Has anyone heard or seen if these will have zebras like the HV20? __________________ Canon HV20 \| Sony FX1 \| Canon XH-A1 \| Sony XDCam EX1 \| 8 Core Mac with FCP and lots of Hard Drives

January 15th, 2008, 01:09 PM	#68
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The specific answer is SDHC only. I tried a Sandisk 2GB Ultra II SD card in an HF10 yesterday and the camcorder would not recognize it. It must be an SDHC Class 4 or Class 6 card... see attached pic... a Class 2 card will not be fast enough. Attached Thumbnails __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 21st, 2008, 02:40 PM	#70
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Some new hands-on HF10 photos here: http://www.dvinfo.net/gallery/browseimages.php?c=52 __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 21st, 2008, 08:46 PM	#71
Paul Kendal Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Asheville, North Carolina Posts: 89	Zebras? Hey Chris, Does this thing have Zebras like the HV20? __________________ Canon HV20 \| Sony FX1 \| Canon XH-A1 \| Sony XDCam EX1 \| 8 Core Mac with FCP and lots of Hard Drives

January 9th, 2008, 11:26 PM	#61
Paul Chiappini Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 89	Do these not have a standard viewfinder -- just the larger LCD screen?

January 13th, 2008, 05:38 AM	#65
Yuning Chi Tourist Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brussels Posts: 3	I saw HF10 has 2 SD slots on a clip shot on CES. I am not sure about that, is that possible?

January 15th, 2008, 11:00 AM	#67
Paul Chiappini Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 89	Are there any specific requirements for the SD cards for use in the HF10/100? I emailed Canon support and got a non-specific answer -- "SD or SDHC memory cards may be used in the HF10."

January 21st, 2008, 09:16 PM	#72
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Don't know for sure, Paul, but I'll find out tomorrow. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 21st, 2008, 11:19 PM	#73
Paul Kendal Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Asheville, North Carolina Posts: 89	Thanks Chris! Can't wait for your update and review. __________________ Canon HV20 \| Sony FX1 \| Canon XH-A1 \| Sony XDCam EX1 \| 8 Core Mac with FCP and lots of Hard Drives

January 23rd, 2008, 11:51 PM	#74
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Sorry for the delay Paul but Canon USA has confirmed for me that the VIXIA HF series camcorders do not have zebras. And that's a drag. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 24th, 2008, 01:48 AM	#75
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	There should be a law that all but the cheapest cams have: * Manual control of exposure, shutter, iris and gain * 24p and 30p. 60p for the overachievers * Focus ring * External mic input and manual gain control * Quick access of all manual features Some of the cams are oh, so close. But none of the high-end consumer cams at CES had it all... __________________ Jon Fairhurst