Why did the HV20 take a 150 swing up at BH?

Pete Bauer · November 8th, 2007, 09:11 AM

Everyone should periodically review the current site policies of web sites they frequent. Makes for a better experience and a happier online community. Here's DVinfo's policy page:
http://www.dvinfo.net/network/policy.php

Andrew Swihart · November 8th, 2007, 09:44 AM

OK I read the whole thing, took a while but I did it.

James David Walley · November 8th, 2007, 04:01 PM

So (and I don't mean this snarkily), if we are discouraged from posting recommendations for any dealer who's not a sponsor of DVInfo, is there a list somewhere of "DVInfo Seal of Approval" sponsors, so we can pre-vet our recommendations and not wind up in trouble with the admins?

ON EDIT: Forget it -- I just found the link.

Meryem Ersoz · November 15th, 2007, 04:41 PM

ok, i really am not one to typically complain about prices--buy it or don't, your choice--but this week, B&H raised the price a hundred bucks and is offering an "instant" rebate which returns it to the original price of $899...don't get these maneuvers at all. i actually buy tons of gear from them and have never had a complaint, but this is dizzying.

meanwhile, the overpriced brick n mortar retailer, from whom i never buy anything but the occasional pack of emergency tape, down the street is offering it for $899. usually, their prices are 20% higher (or more) than B&H.

what's up with the pricing on this camera? is it the weak dollar? lack of supply? something must afoot...

Don Palomaki · November 15th, 2007, 06:32 PM

Because DVINFO.NET has sponsors, it would not be appropriate to allow hawking of non-sponsors a this site. The sponsors could bail, Chris could go broke, and a valuable resource would be lost to all of us. Thus a very pragmatic reason for the policy to limit what amounts to advertising in the threads.

Retail pricing is a mystery. Vendors set prices based on their cost, their competition, which may be a subset of all e-tailers, (much as brick and mortar store competitors are mainly stores within a reasonable drive of their location), and any promotional program they may elect to run.

In general, it is usually worth a visit to the BBB web site to check out e-tailers (and mail order retailers). While not being found on the BBB site is no assurance of good or bad, you will find information on many retailers that can help you judge your risk of receiving final satisfaction, especially if there is a problem in the transaction at the start.

There are several web sites that report user satisfaction, and allow users to vent about e-tailers/retailers. Like anything on the web, the data may be good, or may be gamed. But they provide a data point.

B&H is the sponsor with whom I have had the most experience, and over many years predating the advent of home video, and it has invariably been good, and their prices have been fair in light of their reliability and service.

As to pricing, vendors usually give the best prices on the stock that moves. Often a retailer will carry an item as a convenience for customers rather than as a main stream offering. In those cases, you can expect their price to be less competitive.

November 8th, 2007, 09:11 AM	#16
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Everyone should periodically review the current site policies of web sites they frequent. Makes for a better experience and a happier online community. Here's DVinfo's policy page: http://www.dvinfo.net/network/policy.php __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

November 8th, 2007, 04:01 PM	#18
James David Walley New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Maple Valley, Washington Posts: 16	So (and I don't mean this snarkily), if we are discouraged from posting recommendations for any dealer who's not a sponsor of DVInfo, is there a list somewhere of "DVInfo Seal of Approval" sponsors, so we can pre-vet our recommendations and not wind up in trouble with the admins? ON EDIT: Forget it -- I just found the link. Last edited by James David Walley; November 8th, 2007 at 04:02 PM. Reason: Question already answered.

November 15th, 2007, 06:32 PM	#20
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Because DVINFO.NET has sponsors, it would not be appropriate to allow hawking of non-sponsors a this site. The sponsors could bail, Chris could go broke, and a valuable resource would be lost to all of us. Thus a very pragmatic reason for the policy to limit what amounts to advertising in the threads. Retail pricing is a mystery. Vendors set prices based on their cost, their competition, which may be a subset of all e-tailers, (much as brick and mortar store competitors are mainly stores within a reasonable drive of their location), and any promotional program they may elect to run. In general, it is usually worth a visit to the BBB web site to check out e-tailers (and mail order retailers). While not being found on the BBB site is no assurance of good or bad, you will find information on many retailers that can help you judge your risk of receiving final satisfaction, especially if there is a problem in the transaction at the start. There are several web sites that report user satisfaction, and allow users to vent about e-tailers/retailers. Like anything on the web, the data may be good, or may be gamed. But they provide a data point. B&H is the sponsor with whom I have had the most experience, and over many years predating the advent of home video, and it has invariably been good, and their prices have been fair in light of their reliability and service. As to pricing, vendors usually give the best prices on the stock that moves. Often a retailer will carry an item as a convenience for customers rather than as a main stream offering. In those cases, you can expect their price to be less competitive. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

November 8th, 2007, 09:44 AM	#17
Andrew Swihart Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 25	OK I read the whole thing, took a while but I did it.

November 15th, 2007, 04:41 PM	#19
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	ok, i really am not one to typically complain about prices--buy it or don't, your choice--but this week, B&H raised the price a hundred bucks and is offering an "instant" rebate which returns it to the original price of $899...don't get these maneuvers at all. i actually buy tons of gear from them and have never had a complaint, but this is dizzying. meanwhile, the overpriced brick n mortar retailer, from whom i never buy anything but the occasional pack of emergency tape, down the street is offering it for $899. usually, their prices are 20% higher (or more) than B&H. what's up with the pricing on this camera? is it the weak dollar? lack of supply? something must afoot...