HV20=>HDMI=>MacPro&Intensity at DVinfo.net

Svyatoslav Pylypchuk · September 26th, 2007, 12:14 PM

HV20 Sample footage directly to MacPro 2x2.66GHz 8GbDDR2 wiht Intensity via HDMI(10m) in FCS2 ProRes422(HQ):
http://rapidshare.com/files/58404997...ov.part01.sitx
http://rapidshare.com/files/58380708...ov.part02.sitx
http://rapidshare.com/files/58389665...ov.part03.sitx
http://rapidshare.com/files/58396555...ov.part04.sitx

Wes Vasher · September 26th, 2007, 01:34 PM

Svyatoslav, can't check out your clips since I'm not on FCS2 but have been really wanting to see some HV20 Intensity footage. I'm wondering if you could post some footage in another codec such as Photo JPEG (quality set to 75% or better)? I would check out http://www.mediafire.com/ for free file sharing also, it doesn't have the limits that Rapidshare has.

Svyatoslav Pylypchuk · September 26th, 2007, 06:16 PM

Ok! I will do it, does not think although, that Photo JPEG is a good codec.
Sense was exactly in that, to show work of ProRes. Can it be better to save now without encoding?
Recently did a trick - created a virtual disk in memory and wrote down straight in it via HDMI by Blackmagic Media Express: UNCOMPRESSED.
I was shocked - 1G/s. Phenomenal quality.
Now I will give a grand-dad my Cinealta :) I will shoot the next commercial straight in memory by two HV20 and Blackmagic On-Air 2.0.

Wes, please, how you do it:
"Converting 60i to 60p
1440x540 effective resolution 60p footage can be extracted from a 60i 1440x1080 stream by de-interlacing 60i footage and preserving each field as an individual frame." http://www.vasher.com/v4/v4_more.php?id=98_0_3_0_M4

P.S. If interestingly, look here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=104242

Wes Vasher · September 26th, 2007, 09:26 PM

Svyatoslav, Photo-JPEG is a very good as long as you compress to a quality setting of 75% or higher. Good for posting high quality clips at reasonable sizes. I only suggest it because not everyone has FCS2. :(

If you shoot 60i you can seperate each field and make that into a frame, thus getting lower resolution 60p video from your HV20 (or any other 60i camera for that matter). Which is good for slow motion and other effects.

Svyatoslav Pylypchuk · September 29th, 2007, 03:03 PM

HV20 1/48 => HDMI => Apple ProRes422(HQ) => Motion JPEG 75%:
http://rapidshare.com/files/59067212/sheva2.mov
unfortunately in mediafire.com I can not insert more than 100Mb too

Wes Vasher · October 1st, 2007, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svyatoslav Pylypchuk

HV20 1/48 => HDMI => Apple ProRes422(HQ) => Motion JPEG 75%:
http://rapidshare.com/files/59067212/sheva2.mov
unfortunately in mediafire.com I can not insert more than 100Mb too

Svyatoslav, outstanding shot! The cigar smoke would really challenge the MPEG2 compressor but the Intensity capture just looks silky smooth. Great job and thanks for posting the clip. Was this in TV mode?

Svyatoslav Pylypchuk · October 1st, 2007, 04:10 PM

Thanx. Yes, Tv mode 1/48.
Only one trick: I used a polarization filter, to reduce the specks of light on the skin.

Robert Ducon · October 1st, 2007, 05:31 PM

This is great to see! Proves how much nicer pure 4:2:2 is compared to 4:2:0.

I've captured raw 4:2:2 out of the HV20 too, but used a 35mm adapter, so it's nice to see this uber-sharp pure footage. Thanks for sharing!

Joseph H. Moore · October 2nd, 2007, 05:44 PM

Very nice. Really shows how badly HDV mucks-up what the sensor is capable of capturing. Just reinforces that I'm going to have to shoot tethered. :-(

Joseph H. Moore · October 2nd, 2007, 05:48 PM

PS. Do you think you could post an uncompressed, full-res still? (PNG, TIF)

Svyatoslav Pylypchuk · October 2nd, 2007, 06:21 PM

I will shoot movie specially for you tomorrow.
Uncompressed :)

Svyatoslav Pylypchuk · October 3rd, 2007, 12:01 PM

Here a few movies by duration of 1s. Written down in RAM and HDD by FCP and BME(Blackmagic Media Express). UNCOMPRESSED. It is initial files and it's necessary to do pull-down and deinterlacing. Weather terms are bad although, but quality is visible:
http://rapidshare.com/files/59996077...4toHDD.mov.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/59997960...4toRAM.mov.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/60000006...0toRAM.mov.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/60007339...4toHDD.mov.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/60012353...0toHDD.mov.zip

Joseph H. Moore · October 3rd, 2007, 01:11 PM

Many thanks!

Svyatoslav Pylypchuk · October 3rd, 2007, 04:38 PM

I hope that Canon and Blackmagic will give me a medal :)))

Joseph H. Moore · October 3rd, 2007, 05:38 PM

The detail is just phenomenal. So clean. If this camera had true manual controls, it would be an indie dream machine.

September 26th, 2007, 12:14 PM	#1
Svyatoslav Pylypchuk Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ukraine Posts: 40	HV20=>HDMI=>MacPro&Intensity HV20 Sample footage directly to MacPro 2x2.66GHz 8GbDDR2 wiht Intensity via HDMI(10m) in FCS2 ProRes422(HQ): http://rapidshare.com/files/58404997...ov.part01.sitx http://rapidshare.com/files/58380708...ov.part02.sitx http://rapidshare.com/files/58389665...ov.part03.sitx http://rapidshare.com/files/58396555...ov.part04.sitx Last edited by Svyatoslav Pylypchuk; September 26th, 2007 at 06:40 PM.

September 26th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#2
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Svyatoslav, can't check out your clips since I'm not on FCS2 but have been really wanting to see some HV20 Intensity footage. I'm wondering if you could post some footage in another codec such as Photo JPEG (quality set to 75% or better)? I would check out http://www.mediafire.com/ for free file sharing also, it doesn't have the limits that Rapidshare has. __________________ Clips \| Stills

September 26th, 2007, 09:26 PM	#4
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Svyatoslav, Photo-JPEG is a very good as long as you compress to a quality setting of 75% or higher. Good for posting high quality clips at reasonable sizes. I only suggest it because not everyone has FCS2. :( If you shoot 60i you can seperate each field and make that into a frame, thus getting lower resolution 60p video from your HV20 (or any other 60i camera for that matter). Which is good for slow motion and other effects. __________________ Clips \| Stills

October 1st, 2007, 05:31 PM	#8
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	This is great to see! Proves how much nicer pure 4:2:2 is compared to 4:2:0. I've captured raw 4:2:2 out of the HV20 too, but used a 35mm adapter, so it's nice to see this uber-sharp pure footage. Thanks for sharing! __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

September 26th, 2007, 06:16 PM	#3
Svyatoslav Pylypchuk Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ukraine Posts: 40	Ok! I will do it, does not think although, that Photo JPEG is a good codec. Sense was exactly in that, to show work of ProRes. Can it be better to save now without encoding? Recently did a trick - created a virtual disk in memory and wrote down straight in it via HDMI by Blackmagic Media Express: UNCOMPRESSED. I was shocked - 1G/s. Phenomenal quality. Now I will give a grand-dad my Cinealta :) I will shoot the next commercial straight in memory by two HV20 and Blackmagic On-Air 2.0. Wes, please, how you do it: "Converting 60i to 60p 1440x540 effective resolution 60p footage can be extracted from a 60i 1440x1080 stream by de-interlacing 60i footage and preserving each field as an individual frame." http://www.vasher.com/v4/v4_more.php?id=98_0_3_0_M4 P.S. If interestingly, look here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=104242

September 29th, 2007, 03:03 PM	#5
Svyatoslav Pylypchuk Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ukraine Posts: 40	HV20 1/48 => HDMI => Apple ProRes422(HQ) => Motion JPEG 75%: http://rapidshare.com/files/59067212/sheva2.mov unfortunately in mediafire.com I can not insert more than 100Mb too

October 1st, 2007, 04:10 PM	#7
Svyatoslav Pylypchuk Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ukraine Posts: 40	Thanx. Yes, Tv mode 1/48. Only one trick: I used a polarization filter, to reduce the specks of light on the skin.

October 2nd, 2007, 05:44 PM	#9
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	Very nice. Really shows how badly HDV mucks-up what the sensor is capable of capturing. Just reinforces that I'm going to have to shoot tethered. :-(

October 2nd, 2007, 05:48 PM	#10
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	PS. Do you think you could post an uncompressed, full-res still? (PNG, TIF)

October 2nd, 2007, 06:21 PM	#11
Svyatoslav Pylypchuk Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ukraine Posts: 40	I will shoot movie specially for you tomorrow. Uncompressed :)

October 3rd, 2007, 12:01 PM	#12
Svyatoslav Pylypchuk Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ukraine Posts: 40	Here a few movies by duration of 1s. Written down in RAM and HDD by FCP and BME(Blackmagic Media Express). UNCOMPRESSED. It is initial files and it's necessary to do pull-down and deinterlacing. Weather terms are bad although, but quality is visible: http://rapidshare.com/files/59996077...4toHDD.mov.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/59997960...4toRAM.mov.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/60000006...0toRAM.mov.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/60007339...4toHDD.mov.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/60012353...0toHDD.mov.zip

October 3rd, 2007, 01:11 PM	#13
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	Many thanks!

October 3rd, 2007, 04:38 PM	#14
Svyatoslav Pylypchuk Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ukraine Posts: 40	I hope that Canon and Blackmagic will give me a medal :)))

October 3rd, 2007, 05:38 PM	#15
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	The detail is just phenomenal. So clean. If this camera had true manual controls, it would be an indie dream machine.