Canon HG10 - High Def HDD camcorder shipping in October

[Hse Kha]

We have had many camcorders now that record in 1920x1080 but don't have a sensor capable of true 1920x1080. Well until now that is...

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/01/c...s-a-40gb-disk/

So we now have the awesome 1920x1080 sensor of the HV10 recording at 1920x1080 instead of 1440x1080.

Note from Admin Sorry, but "recording at 1920x1080" is not correct: see http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....7&postcount=26 for clarification.

However I am skeptical of AVCHD's encoding capabilities. The bit rate is 15Mbps. In theory 15Mbps of MPEG-4 AVC should be as good as 25Mbps of MPEG-2. We shall see...

[Chris Hurd]

Thanks -- see also http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...0801/canon.htm

40 GB, HDMI, Mic input with manual audio, a little lighter than the HR10 (Canon's disc-based AVCHD).

Canon's press release in Japanese: http://cweb.canon.jp/newsrelease/2007-08/pr-ivis.html

[Matthias Helbig]

Hi,

here the first photos:

http://www3.canon.de/pro/vid/dig/hg10/foto_hg10

and the press info:

http://www3.canon.de/images/pro/vid/dig/file/HG10.pdf


Matthias

[Robert Batta]

english translate:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=hu&ie=UTF8

[Chris Hurd]

Official Canon Japan site: http://cweb.canon.jp/ivis/hg10/index.html

Sadly, with a typo in a graphic: "Coral Applications" instead of "Corel Applications" on the main page.

Looks like they're bundling a Corel AVCHD capture / editing application with the camcorder.

Details on the Corel app and other included software at http://cweb.canon.jp/ivis/hg10/point...orel.html#main

And from the press release linked above: "In addition, the heat which is given out from LSI (that's the processor, or DSP) efficiently spreads by the fact that the separate heat way system is adopted for the substance design, the compact body was actualized."

[Hse Kha]

Does it really capture in 1920x1080? It says so in Engadget, but can't see it being mentioned anywhere else.

Hope it doesn't do it at 1440x1080. AVCHD does support 1920x1080 capture by the way...

[Chris Hurd]

I think Engadget is getting that from the Watch Impress site... I'll see what I can find out from Canon USA.

[Serge Victorovich]

Without LANC...

[Chris Hurd]

Without LANC, which Canon discontinued from its consumer line several years ago, so it should be expected that it does not have LANC -- which is too bad, because in my opinion it's an absolute necessity -- but they dropped it from their consumer cams quite awhile back and I don't think we'll ever see it again, unfortunately.

[James Rhodes]

When can we expect to see this bad boy in the store ???

[Chris Hurd]

Shipping in October for $1299. I bet it'll be quite a bit more popular than the DVD-based Canon HR10.

[Matt Buys]

I wonder if it will do 24p without cineform?

[Chris Hurd]

Well, like the HR10 and the HV series, it features a 24p Cine mode. But it's AVCHD, not HDV, so... CineForm?

[Ian Holb]

Originally Posted by Matt Buys

I wonder if it will do 24p without cineform?

It still records in 2:3 pulldown (60i). Bummer. Not as big a deal as you still have to transcode AVCHD.

[Jason Lowe]

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Without LANC, which Canon discontinued from its consumer line several years ago, so it should be expected that it does not have LANC -- which is too bad, because in my opinion it's an absolute necessity -- but they dropped it from their consumer cams quite awhile back and I don't think we'll ever see it again, unfortunately.

It's very odd that Canon has all but eliminated the LANC jack when you consider that Canon markets a LANC controller. I would think the possibility of selling a $200 accessory (that's usually not found in stores but is available for purchase on Canon's' website) would keep the LANC jack on everything but the cheapest miniDV models.

Lack of a LANC port stopped me from buying an HV20.