Original Optura Wont Work in XP at DVinfo.net

Mike Arcidiacono · February 15th, 2004, 08:59 PM

I have the original Canon optura from 1997. The cam works fine.

However, when I connect it to my PC via the Firwire card, the Pc just does not see it. Nothing. Zilch.

Is anyone out there using the original Optura with XP, and if you are, what Firewire card are you using?

Frank Granovski · February 15th, 2004, 09:24 PM

Maybe it's a driver or NLE software issue, or a cable issue.

Mike Arcidiacono · February 15th, 2004, 09:42 PM

Hi Frank.

Well, I can d/l still pics to the pc, so I know it isnt the fireware port, or the cable.

At forst i thought that it was becaise my Pc had the Texas instruments 1394 chipset on the card, but I have TWO XP machines with different 1394 chipsets on the cards and the Optura was not recognized by either one.

I was told by someone that the Firewire port on the Opturs is not a standard one. That sucks.

Jeff Donald · February 15th, 2004, 09:51 PM

Some early Canon cameras did not fully comply with the FireWire standard. Some software will have several levels of FireWire support to accommodate the early cameras. Apple, for example has FireWire Basic and FireWire protocols. If XP doesn't have different levels of support, I think you may be out of luck.

What software are you using to capture?

Mike Arcidiacono · February 15th, 2004, 09:58 PM

Hi Jeff.

Thanks for posting.

I have heard what you said about the early Canon DV cams from others.

XP just doesnt see the cam in anyw ay so the capture SF isnt going to work and it doesnt.

I have Ulead, Premeire 7 and Windv and none of them see the cam.

Any ideas?

Jeff Donald · February 15th, 2004, 10:06 PM

Microsoft would need to write new FireWire drivers that included support for the Optura. I don't know if earlier OS versions would have supported it. If you have a friend with a Mac you could capture the video that way. Then network the two computers with an ethernet crossover cable and transfer the footage over the network.

Mike Arcidiacono · February 15th, 2004, 10:08 PM

UUGGHHHH

Well thanks Jeff.

It looks like I have to get a new DV cam.

Jeff Donald · February 15th, 2004, 10:37 PM

I seem to recall that this camera could be edited on PC systems of it's era (1997). You may need to seek assistance from the manufacture of the FireWire card. It may me that newer OS's and software don't support this camera any longer.

Mike Arcidiacono · February 16th, 2004, 09:05 AM

Hi Jeff.

Well, I dont think the PYRO folks are going to be able to help me.

I have a hunch that I would need a different Firewire card altogether. But which one is the mystery. Finding out info on this camera is like harder than learning Nasa secrets!!

Let me ask you this...this cam has pretty crappy low light performance. One of the primary things I need to use a DV cam for is shooting bands live at clubs....where its very low light.

What DV cam would you recommend for excellent Low light performance?

thanks!!

Jeff Donald · February 16th, 2004, 10:19 AM

Several of the Sony's are regarded as having very good low light performance. You might want to post the question in the Open DV Forum or in a camera specific forum.

Mike Arcidiacono · February 16th, 2004, 11:02 AM

Ok, thanks Jeff.

February 15th, 2004, 08:59 PM	#1
Mike Arcidiacono New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 6	Original Optura Wont Work in XP I have the original Canon optura from 1997. The cam works fine. However, when I connect it to my PC via the Firwire card, the Pc just does not see it. Nothing. Zilch. Is anyone out there using the original Optura with XP, and if you are, what Firewire card are you using?

February 15th, 2004, 09:42 PM	#3
Mike Arcidiacono New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 6	Canon optura Problem Hi Frank. Well, I can d/l still pics to the pc, so I know it isnt the fireware port, or the cable. At forst i thought that it was becaise my Pc had the Texas instruments 1394 chipset on the card, but I have TWO XP machines with different 1394 chipsets on the cards and the Optura was not recognized by either one. I was told by someone that the Firewire port on the Opturs is not a standard one. That sucks.

February 15th, 2004, 09:51 PM	#4
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Some early Canon cameras did not fully comply with the FireWire standard. Some software will have several levels of FireWire support to accommodate the early cameras. Apple, for example has FireWire Basic and FireWire protocols. If XP doesn't have different levels of support, I think you may be out of luck. What software are you using to capture? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 15th, 2004, 09:58 PM	#5
Mike Arcidiacono New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 6	Canon Hi Jeff. Thanks for posting. I have heard what you said about the early Canon DV cams from others. XP just doesnt see the cam in anyw ay so the capture SF isnt going to work and it doesnt. I have Ulead, Premeire 7 and Windv and none of them see the cam. Any ideas?

February 15th, 2004, 10:06 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Microsoft would need to write new FireWire drivers that included support for the Optura. I don't know if earlier OS versions would have supported it. If you have a friend with a Mac you could capture the video that way. Then network the two computers with an ethernet crossover cable and transfer the footage over the network. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 15th, 2004, 09:24 PM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Maybe it's a driver or NLE software issue, or a cable issue.

February 15th, 2004, 10:08 PM	#7
Mike Arcidiacono New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 6	uugghh UUGGHHHH Well thanks Jeff. It looks like I have to get a new DV cam.

February 15th, 2004, 10:37 PM	#8
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I seem to recall that this camera could be edited on PC systems of it's era (1997). You may need to seek assistance from the manufacture of the FireWire card. It may me that newer OS's and software don't support this camera any longer. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 16th, 2004, 09:05 AM	#9
Mike Arcidiacono New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 6	Card Hi Jeff. Well, I dont think the PYRO folks are going to be able to help me. I have a hunch that I would need a different Firewire card altogether. But which one is the mystery. Finding out info on this camera is like harder than learning Nasa secrets!! Let me ask you this...this cam has pretty crappy low light performance. One of the primary things I need to use a DV cam for is shooting bands live at clubs....where its very low light. What DV cam would you recommend for excellent Low light performance? thanks!!

February 16th, 2004, 10:19 AM	#10
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Several of the Sony's are regarded as having very good low light performance. You might want to post the question in the Open DV Forum or in a camera specific forum. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 16th, 2004, 11:02 AM	#11
Mike Arcidiacono New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 6	ok!! Ok, thanks Jeff.