GL1 vs. GL2 at DVinfo.net

April 3rd, 2003, 04:45 PM

For anyone with both cams I would be considering purchasing a GL2 and use my GL1 and a GL2 for 2 cam weddings but want to know if footage matches up easily. I have heard a bit more red push is in the GL2. Can I set the color once to try to match the GL1 color and have ir remember the setting so I dont have to re-set it every time I change a battery etc? How about the other any other picture matching factors?

Ken Tanaka · April 3rd, 2003, 08:58 PM

Hello Rob,
(Glad we got your user profile straightened-out.)

I used to own both cameras and have tried to match their footage to coexist in a sequence. The GL1 tended to be a bit warmer and softer than the GL2. The GL2 also produces a slightly sharper image. But honestly you could probably juxtapose their footage untouched and nobody except video geeks would take much notice. If you just can't stand to offend the geeks <g> I'd recommend turning the GL2's sharpness down a notch. Color adjustments will need to be judged on a scene-by-scene basis. Both cameras love their reds, with the GL1 loving it a bit more.

Rob Easler · April 3rd, 2003, 10:50 PM

Thanks Ken.

Ken Tanaka · April 4th, 2003, 12:12 AM

A small footnote. Since the GL2's image is more adjustable than the GL1's you'll need to adapt the GL2 to the GL1.

Gayle Bryan · April 27th, 2003, 05:26 PM

Can someone direct me to a thread or review with detailed pro's and con's of GL1 vs. GL2. Searched but didn't find exactly what I needed. I have been out of the loop for a while and am looking to upgrade from VX1000 with bad dv connection. Is GL2 worth extra $$?

Frank Granovski · April 27th, 2003, 05:49 PM

The GL2 now has higher resolution, much better audio, and the lower manual shutter settings.

K. Forman · April 27th, 2003, 06:05 PM

GL2 has time lapse.

Ryan Krga · April 27th, 2003, 06:31 PM

Higher resolution stills

Left and right audio adjusting

Lighter

Battery last 30% more than the battery on the GL1

Better quality LCD screen

Green and red visual adjustments

Multimedia slot for high resolution stills

There are a lot more, but these are the ones that came off of the top of my head. Hope I helped.

Ryan Krga

Ken Tanaka · April 27th, 2003, 07:17 PM

See our GL-2 Watchdog pages for more information.

Jeff Troiano · May 17th, 2003, 05:01 PM

Hi everyone,

Been lurking behind the scenes for a couple of weeks, soaking up as much information as possible. I'm new to the whole DV world. I was given a low end Sony digital8 for Christmas, now I hooked. In the process of putting together a dedicated NLE system.

Any how, after spending many hours on this site, and for many different reasons I decided on getting a GL2 to learn with, and then upgrade down the road to more advanced cameras.

Here's my question....

I have been given the opportunity to buy a used GL1 from someone I run into in my buisness. I know their camera is in great shape, and very seldem left their house (they used for their bikini, dancer costume company). Would I be better off paying more for the GL2? Are things that much different between the 2 models? I'm putting quite a bit into my NLE system, and would like a camera that can callange me.

Thanks for any input and gidence you can provide.

Jeff

Ken Tanaka · May 17th, 2003, 05:18 PM

I am a current GL2 owner and former owner of a GL1. If cost differential will not be a major hurdle for you I would certainly vote for the GL2. Aside from its additional resolution and image controls (which are formidable), the GL2 also features greatly enhanced audio management. This, to me, is the biggest and most worthwhile reason to opt for the GL2. Although the GL2 does not provide native XLR inputs, it does offer good manual control over two channels. The GL1 offers very little in the way of audio facilities. Basically, you're getting 80-90% of an XL1s when you get the GL2.

So, now, about that bikini photography business...

Jeff Troiano · May 17th, 2003, 07:16 PM

Thanks for the input Ken, I think I'm set on the GL2 for now, I think. I want to learn so many things. Would like to get to the point where I can film and edit my own indie film. I would like to get a better camera to begin with, but I have to learn somewhere, and maybe when that time comes, the 24p cameras will start to dial in more. Thanks again.

Jeff

By the way Ken, I am the manager of a club here in Nashville called Ken's Gold Club, let's just say it's not a gym.
www.kensgoldclub.com

Alex Knappenberger · May 17th, 2003, 07:24 PM

Hey Jeff, I know your probably on a budget in the range of the GL2 and stuff, but just to point out another option, you can take a look at the VX2000. The prices have recently dropped on it, and I seen it for around $2100 at a reputable dealer recently, I forget what site that was though...

Chris Hurd · May 17th, 2003, 08:31 PM

Now I know what to do next time I'm in Nashville.

In my opinion there's a world of difference between the GL1 and GL2, and if the GL2 is within your budget, it's definitely the way to go. As Ken says, you're basically getting the entire feature set of the complex XL1S menu system, plus full audio control and more. Lack of audio control is a primary limitation of the GL1. Hope this helps,

Ken Tanaka · May 17th, 2003, 09:50 PM

Jeff,
We can't wait to see some of your first test clips from your new camera...even if you buy a ZR20.

Whew...I guess that explains the GL1's prior use!

April 3rd, 2003, 04:45 PM	#1
RedeyeRob Posts: n/a	How well does the color/footage shot with the GL2 mix with GL1 footage? For anyone with both cams I would be considering purchasing a GL2 and use my GL1 and a GL2 for 2 cam weddings but want to know if footage matches up easily. I have heard a bit more red push is in the GL2. Can I set the color once to try to match the GL1 color and have ir remember the setting so I dont have to re-set it every time I change a battery etc? How about the other any other picture matching factors?

April 3rd, 2003, 08:58 PM	#2
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Hello Rob, (Glad we got your user profile straightened-out.) I used to own both cameras and have tried to match their footage to coexist in a sequence. The GL1 tended to be a bit warmer and softer than the GL2. The GL2 also produces a slightly sharper image. But honestly you could probably juxtapose their footage untouched and nobody except video geeks would take much notice. If you just can't stand to offend the geeks <g> I'd recommend turning the GL2's sharpness down a notch. Color adjustments will need to be judged on a scene-by-scene basis. Both cameras love their reds, with the GL1 loving it a bit more. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 4th, 2003, 12:12 AM	#4
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	A small footnote. Since the GL2's image is more adjustable than the GL1's you'll need to adapt the GL2 to the GL1. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 27th, 2003, 05:26 PM	#5
Gayle Bryan New Boot Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 23	GL1 vs. GL2 Can someone direct me to a thread or review with detailed pro's and con's of GL1 vs. GL2. Searched but didn't find exactly what I needed. I have been out of the loop for a while and am looking to upgrade from VX1000 with bad dv connection. Is GL2 worth extra $$?

April 27th, 2003, 07:17 PM	#9
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	See our GL-2 Watchdog pages for more information. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 3rd, 2003, 10:50 PM	#3
Rob Easler Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 219	Thanks Ken.

April 27th, 2003, 05:49 PM	#6
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The GL2 now has higher resolution, much better audio, and the lower manual shutter settings.

April 27th, 2003, 06:05 PM	#7
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	GL2 has time lapse.

April 27th, 2003, 06:31 PM	#8
Ryan Krga Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 116	Higher resolution stills Left and right audio adjusting Lighter Battery last 30% more than the battery on the GL1 Better quality LCD screen Green and red visual adjustments Multimedia slot for high resolution stills There are a lot more, but these are the ones that came off of the top of my head. Hope I helped. Ryan Krga

May 17th, 2003, 05:01 PM	#10
Jeff Troiano Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 480	GL1 or GL2? which to go with Hi everyone, Been lurking behind the scenes for a couple of weeks, soaking up as much information as possible. I'm new to the whole DV world. I was given a low end Sony digital8 for Christmas, now I hooked. In the process of putting together a dedicated NLE system. Any how, after spending many hours on this site, and for many different reasons I decided on getting a GL2 to learn with, and then upgrade down the road to more advanced cameras. Here's my question.... I have been given the opportunity to buy a used GL1 from someone I run into in my buisness. I know their camera is in great shape, and very seldem left their house (they used for their bikini, dancer costume company). Would I be better off paying more for the GL2? Are things that much different between the 2 models? I'm putting quite a bit into my NLE system, and would like a camera that can callange me. Thanks for any input and gidence you can provide. Jeff

May 17th, 2003, 05:18 PM	#11
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Hello Jeff, and Welcome to DVInfo! I am a current GL2 owner and former owner of a GL1. If cost differential will not be a major hurdle for you I would certainly vote for the GL2. Aside from its additional resolution and image controls (which are formidable), the GL2 also features greatly enhanced audio management. This, to me, is the biggest and most worthwhile reason to opt for the GL2. Although the GL2 does not provide native XLR inputs, it does offer good manual control over two channels. The GL1 offers very little in the way of audio facilities. Basically, you're getting 80-90% of an XL1s when you get the GL2. So, now, about that bikini photography business... __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 17th, 2003, 07:16 PM	#12
Jeff Troiano Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 480	Thanks for the input Ken, I think I'm set on the GL2 for now, I think. I want to learn so many things. Would like to get to the point where I can film and edit my own indie film. I would like to get a better camera to begin with, but I have to learn somewhere, and maybe when that time comes, the 24p cameras will start to dial in more. Thanks again. Jeff By the way Ken, I am the manager of a club here in Nashville called Ken's Gold Club, let's just say it's not a gym. www.kensgoldclub.com

May 17th, 2003, 07:24 PM	#13
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Hey Jeff, I know your probably on a budget in the range of the GL2 and stuff, but just to point out another option, you can take a look at the VX2000. The prices have recently dropped on it, and I seen it for around $2100 at a reputable dealer recently, I forget what site that was though...

May 17th, 2003, 08:31 PM	#14
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Now I know what to do next time I'm in Nashville. In my opinion there's a world of difference between the GL1 and GL2, and if the GL2 is within your budget, it's definitely the way to go. As Ken says, you're basically getting the entire feature set of the complex XL1S menu system, plus full audio control and more. Lack of audio control is a primary limitation of the GL1. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 17th, 2003, 09:50 PM	#15
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Jeff, We can't wait to see some of your first test clips from your new camera...even if you buy a ZR20. Whew...I guess that explains the GL1's prior use! __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com