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Old April 17th, 2006, 09:18 AM   #1
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Which filter for sunrise or sunset ??

Which filter must I use to make some shots about the sunsire or sunset
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Old April 17th, 2006, 09:32 AM   #2
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nd filters
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Old April 17th, 2006, 06:25 PM   #3
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for sunset you might not need anything. i have filmed a sunset before without any filters cause its already getting dark and the sun is not as bright.

for sunrise you might want to stick a nd filter on there or a Uv Filter just to be safe/
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Old April 18th, 2006, 04:31 PM   #4
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A graduated ND (if you're shooting land or ocean in the same frame as the sunset), this will give you richer colours and balance the exposure.
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Old April 23rd, 2006, 10:15 PM   #5
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Filters

I shoot sunsets all the time, they just mesmerise me.

Nd filters as the others said.

I have used a polarizing filter when I have water in the view as well. Reflected sunstes are to die by.

I would definitely try them all and I would also try combinations.

We have tons of color here, but if you want to enrich them further you can get half red filters and use them.
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Old April 23rd, 2006, 10:38 PM   #6
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Say Dale,

Couldn't you just do some post processing to get more color in your sunsets? As per the ND filter, what exactly does the N-D stand for? Are these standard 55mm filters?

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Old April 24th, 2006, 12:28 AM   #7
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ND = Neutral Density . The XM2 has one built in.

Here are some great links. Exponents of filters and some technical stuff. Not too difficult either . . even I understood it.

Here is a great exponent of filters at work. See/notice his little pencil sketch of how he accomplishes just what is being shown. This was a great "eye-opener" for me.


Joe Cornish:
http://www.leefilters.com/downloads.asp


What they Do!
http://www.centuryoptics.com/product...s/nd/index.htm

. . and more . .
http://www.tiffen.com/filters.htm


. .and this is just CHOCK full of stuff .. love it!!
http://www.formatt.co.uk/glass/filters.asp


. .well THAT should keep you going?

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Old April 24th, 2006, 10:13 PM   #8
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post work

David,

I have tried some work in post and to be honest, as a person who loves sunsets, all the ones i did in post did not look quite right.

You can also change your red green and blue settings for more enriched effects but they do not look wuite right either.

I simply just set my settings to make it look like it actually was as apposed to trying to enhance them. but then where i live great sunsets are very common occurances!!!

I enjoyed the one site grazie p[osted!! out it on my list of favorites.
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Old April 29th, 2006, 08:27 AM   #9
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Hey guys, I’ve been checking into ND filters, and other filters, for use on my GL2. I have noticed before that there is a "ND" filter button on my camera, but I thought it was a software setting, and not an actual filter. I had the idea of setting up my video camera near a beach and setting the time lapse to record the entire sunset. Has anyone come up with a setup procedure that looks pretty good? Ex: 2 sec exposure, 5 minutes apart? Also should I invest in a set of square filters and filter holder, or just get a cheaper round filter set? I like the idea of using a "Sunset" filter, but they only come in the square style.

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Old April 29th, 2006, 03:30 PM   #10
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you can use your built in nd filter.. you may need additional ones though depending on what you're going for
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Old May 1st, 2006, 11:22 PM   #11
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Time Delay

David,

I have tried all the time delays on my gl2 and my Sony. I could Not make any of them produce video that ran smoothly.

I have found that I just set the camera on its tripod and make necessary settings. Use the lanc remote if you want to change things on the fly. I put a fresh tape in and let it run the entire sunset. Here in the northern prairies we have long sunsets and I have never run out of tape.
I then go to post and use the time stretch tool to compress the frames as much as necessary to get the rate of movement I desire.
I do not change the rgb settings. My normal preset is one up on the red most of the time blue and green centered.

If anyone has a better way I would love to hear about, and would find it very benificial.
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