Finally Getting XM2. Advice for Extras? at DVinfo.net

Hilary Cam · January 23rd, 2003, 09:41 PM

Well, I've posted a fair few times here and have been an avid reader for the last few months.

I've finally got my affairs in order and settled on getting an XM2 tomorrow (Saturday). While obviously excited, I still have some last minute questions on what basic extras I should pick up at the store.

I've tried to make a short list;

- XM2 Standard Kit.

- Is the battery that comes with the kit sufficient (~90min)? Perhaps a second batt, BP-930, 945?

- Filter for lens protection only (to be left on all the time; 58mm threaded 0.10 UV-Haze? Hoya, B+W, brands?)

- 5 pack of 60min DV tapes (Fuji DVC-60 best? Shouldn't mix with other tapes?)

- Tripod (fluid head? brands?)

- Bag. Room for camera, filters, batteries, tapes etc. (what are the best bags by Lowepro, Kata, Tarmac etc?)

If there are any obvious omissions or better choices please tell me. (and, yes I already have a firewire card).

:) thanks guys,
hope to be a regular here in the near future.

Hilary

PS.
To potential buyers on a budget, try to barter down the price. This purchase would not have been possible had I not.

Brian M. Dickman · January 23rd, 2003, 10:13 PM

Battery is pretty much a requirement. The standard issue one is what I throw on there when I want to rewind a tape or check timecodes, but that's about it. Either a real 945 or the sabaoceanic deal.

Bag, another given. There's plenty of threads about that though.

Tripod, depends on what you're going to shoot. I'd rank it pretty high though, the GL/XM2 is a pretty light cam and shakes easy. At least a steadier of some kind. Also lots of threads on this.

I just grabbed a Tiffen UV protector. The obsessive geek in me (and the frugal guy that just laid out major bucks for that beautiful lens) would never let the lens be naked to the world. Unless you know you want the effect though, just stick with straight UVP only, not haze.

I'm just one stage ahead of you (I have all the major camera parts I want) and I'm going after sound next. As gets discussed a lot around here, the onboard just doesn't cut it for "up close and personal".

Have fun! It's a great cam.

Hilary Cam · January 23rd, 2003, 10:20 PM

Thanks Brian,

I take it the BP-945 uses the standard recharger supplied with the XM2?

What time can you squeeze out of each?

915 (supplied) - min?
930 - min?
945 - min?

Justin Morgan · January 24th, 2003, 03:45 AM

Have you seen this link (on this website):

http://www.dvinfo.net/canongl2/articles/topfive.php

Hilary Cam · January 24th, 2003, 03:09 PM

Yes Justin I have seen that link. But I was more concerned at this point about bare basics for the camera, rather then substantial upgrades.

Does anyone know if the BP-945 protrudes from the GL2, it looks very chunky. Might get a BP-930.

Dirk Goris · January 27th, 2003, 08:01 AM

Hi Hilary,

I bought my batteries here:
http://www.sabahoceanic.com/vcanon.html

They where much cheaper and last longer. There was a topic about it some months ago.

Dirk

Hilary Cam · January 28th, 2003, 08:08 PM

Hi fellas.

Been playing around with the XM2 for the last few days; fairly impressed.

One of my main worrys was the zoom which I dreaded would be like those old VHS Camcorders, very raw and fast. It is however very soft and subtle (perfect for almost subconscious closing-in on subject matter) yet it unfortunately doesn't 'glide' down to a stop like a manual zoom might.

I took a trip to the zoo (where I coincidentally bumped into Superman! well, Christopher Reeves who is unfortunately looking not-so-super) to give the XM2 the first run for its money, the colours were vibrant and sharp despite it being an unusually grey and polluted day. The manual focus was excellent for composing interesting images with foreground elements.

Whats next from here:

- I still have no stand!

I was initially looking at the Manfrotto 501 set, until I was shown a 2nd hand Miller Fluid-Head. It was used for 35mm panavisions and obviously has been through alot. It is extremely well built and durable (not to mention heavy), the pans and tilts are silk smooth and glide into a stop where ‘consumer fluid heads’ would simply come to a halt. Needless to say it absolutely BLOWS AWAY the Manfrotto 501. To top it up its going for about the same price as a new Manfrotto 501 head.

Now I have to find a Miller tripod with a 100mm leveling bowl, which I’m told are far from cheap. I'll keep you posted as things develop.

As for www.sabahoceanic.com batteries, the prices are amazing and they will be my next point of call.

Cheers,
Hilary

Vito Zarrillo · January 28th, 2003, 10:04 PM

Hilary-

You had previously asked a question regarding whether or not the 945 battery protrudes from the camera. Well, it sort of does. The work around for it though is to have the viewfinder extended at all times.

As far as battery life, I found the following times on my batteries: 45-50 minutes for the 915, 2-2.5 hours for the 930, 3-3.5 hours for the 945.

Best of luck with the camera, it's great.

Rob Lohman · January 29th, 2003, 04:13 AM

That is a lot more time than I get out of my 915 (around 15 - 30
minutes I'd say, depending on whether auto focus etc. is on).

I just bought a different brand 945 and waiting to get back to
my camera to test that one out.

January 23rd, 2003, 09:41 PM	#1
Hilary Cam Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 42	Finally Getting XM2. Advice for Extras? Well, I've posted a fair few times here and have been an avid reader for the last few months. I've finally got my affairs in order and settled on getting an XM2 tomorrow (Saturday). While obviously excited, I still have some last minute questions on what basic extras I should pick up at the store. I've tried to make a short list; - XM2 Standard Kit. - Is the battery that comes with the kit sufficient (~90min)? Perhaps a second batt, BP-930, 945? - Filter for lens protection only (to be left on all the time; 58mm threaded 0.10 UV-Haze? Hoya, B+W, brands?) - 5 pack of 60min DV tapes (Fuji DVC-60 best? Shouldn't mix with other tapes?) - Tripod (fluid head? brands?) - Bag. Room for camera, filters, batteries, tapes etc. (what are the best bags by Lowepro, Kata, Tarmac etc?) If there are any obvious omissions or better choices please tell me. (and, yes I already have a firewire card). :) thanks guys, hope to be a regular here in the near future. Hilary PS. To potential buyers on a budget, try to barter down the price. This purchase would not have been possible had I not.

January 29th, 2003, 04:13 AM	#9
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That is a lot more time than I get out of my 915 (around 15 - 30 minutes I'd say, depending on whether auto focus etc. is on). I just bought a different brand 945 and waiting to get back to my camera to test that one out. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 23rd, 2003, 10:13 PM	#2
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	Battery is pretty much a requirement. The standard issue one is what I throw on there when I want to rewind a tape or check timecodes, but that's about it. Either a real 945 or the sabaoceanic deal. Bag, another given. There's plenty of threads about that though. Tripod, depends on what you're going to shoot. I'd rank it pretty high though, the GL/XM2 is a pretty light cam and shakes easy. At least a steadier of some kind. Also lots of threads on this. I just grabbed a Tiffen UV protector. The obsessive geek in me (and the frugal guy that just laid out major bucks for that beautiful lens) would never let the lens be naked to the world. Unless you know you want the effect though, just stick with straight UVP only, not haze. I'm just one stage ahead of you (I have all the major camera parts I want) and I'm going after sound next. As gets discussed a lot around here, the onboard just doesn't cut it for "up close and personal". Have fun! It's a great cam.

January 23rd, 2003, 10:20 PM	#3
Hilary Cam Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 42	Thanks Brian, I take it the BP-945 uses the standard recharger supplied with the XM2? What time can you squeeze out of each? 915 (supplied) - min? 930 - min? 945 - min?

January 24th, 2003, 03:45 AM	#4
Justin Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London Posts: 189	Have you seen this link (on this website): http://www.dvinfo.net/canongl2/articles/topfive.php

January 24th, 2003, 03:09 PM	#5
Hilary Cam Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 42	Yes Justin I have seen that link. But I was more concerned at this point about bare basics for the camera, rather then substantial upgrades. Does anyone know if the BP-945 protrudes from the GL2, it looks very chunky. Might get a BP-930.

January 27th, 2003, 08:01 AM	#6
Dirk Goris Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 66	Hi Hilary, I bought my batteries here: http://www.sabahoceanic.com/vcanon.html They where much cheaper and last longer. There was a topic about it some months ago. Dirk

January 28th, 2003, 08:08 PM	#7
Hilary Cam Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 42	Hi fellas. Been playing around with the XM2 for the last few days; fairly impressed. One of my main worrys was the zoom which I dreaded would be like those old VHS Camcorders, very raw and fast. It is however very soft and subtle (perfect for almost subconscious closing-in on subject matter) yet it unfortunately doesn't 'glide' down to a stop like a manual zoom might. I took a trip to the zoo (where I coincidentally bumped into Superman! well, Christopher Reeves who is unfortunately looking not-so-super) to give the XM2 the first run for its money, the colours were vibrant and sharp despite it being an unusually grey and polluted day. The manual focus was excellent for composing interesting images with foreground elements. Whats next from here: - I still have no stand! I was initially looking at the Manfrotto 501 set, until I was shown a 2nd hand Miller Fluid-Head. It was used for 35mm panavisions and obviously has been through alot. It is extremely well built and durable (not to mention heavy), the pans and tilts are silk smooth and glide into a stop where ‘consumer fluid heads’ would simply come to a halt. Needless to say it absolutely BLOWS AWAY the Manfrotto 501. To top it up its going for about the same price as a new Manfrotto 501 head. Now I have to find a Miller tripod with a 100mm leveling bowl, which I’m told are far from cheap. I'll keep you posted as things develop. As for www.sabahoceanic.com batteries, the prices are amazing and they will be my next point of call. Cheers, Hilary

January 28th, 2003, 10:04 PM	#8
Vito Zarrillo New Boot Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York Posts: 21	Hilary- You had previously asked a question regarding whether or not the 945 battery protrudes from the camera. Well, it sort of does. The work around for it though is to have the viewfinder extended at all times. As far as battery life, I found the following times on my batteries: 45-50 minutes for the 915, 2-2.5 hours for the 930, 3-3.5 hours for the 945. Best of luck with the camera, it's great.